CA: Lack of concern daunts women (Accusers vilified and question why they even came forward)

Sac Bee ^ | 2/28/04 | Mareva Brown

[NormsRevenge]

Tamee Smith said she carefully weighed the potential impact on her husband's film career before saying publicly last fall that Arnold Schwarzenegger grabbed her breast in a movie producer's office nearly two decades ago.

Linnea Harwell said she ultimately decided it was her duty to tell California voters before the Oct. 7 recall election that he made unwanted sexual advances toward her in 1998. She said she believed she owed it to women whose movie industry jobs prevented them from doing so.

[NormsRevenge]

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[Right Wing Professor]

This is just about sex. Let's move on.

[NormsRevenge]

California State Government.

Morally and fiscally bankrupt..

There are societal bonds that matter more, but all we get is a campaign to perpetuate the regime at any cost and lip service from our elected officials, imo.

[NormsRevenge]

lol... It's Saturday , yaknow. ;-)

FRom your profile.. Since I've been spending way too much time on FR recently, as of 12/19/03 I will be posting and replying only on Fridays.

[cynicom]

No one cared when Slick did his thing. Why should we care now.

[calcowgirl]

Morally and fiscally bankrupt.

That about says it all.

[Highway55]

You're right.
Where was Mareva Brown's concern, and the rest of them on
Juanita Broaddrick?

[Fenris6]

No one cares because its no surprise - most Hollywood women work half the time on their backs, so we give a collective shrug when we hear complaints of sexual harassment.

Its like listening to crack addicts bitch about dirty needles.

[AUH2OY2K]

The Democrats gave slick willie a pass regarding rape. Why now do they expect anyone to care about some playful groping?

[goldstategop]

It was an election eve smear. If there was any substance to their charges against Arnold why didn't these women come forward years ago? Figures. And I hardly believe all of these women were so fragile that they couldn't say NO to a man and walk out if what he allegedly did offended them to begin with. There is no there there here.

[rcocean]

What an absurd article. Why should we care whether these women were groped 5 or 10 or 15 or 20 years ago? They didn't even care enough to talk about it - when it happened.

I am sick and tired of hearing women complain about being groped or pinched 20 years ago. Advice: if you are groped and don't like it - do what my wife, mother, etc. would do - slap him. At least complain about it when it happened.

If wasn't important enough to take action at the time, don't expect anyone to care 20 years later.

[FITZ]

Hollywood women seem pretty eager to disrobe and perform any sexual acts they must in front of cameras if money is involved so most Hollywood women lack credibility on this issue. It would be like Janet Jackson who would do anything for publicity to now say she was sexually harassed.

[Katya]

""Here's the situation: I'd walk in and I'd say, 'Arnold, Ivan (Reitman, the director) says he's about 15 minutes from getting ready, can you get your hair touched up?' Very professionally - this is my job," she said. "And the next thing I know, he's grabbing my ass or making some sexual comment. And everybody's standing around seeing this, and you're thinking, 'Take your hands off me,' but you can't say that. You either go along with it or you walk away from your job."

This is my problem with her statement: She should be yelling about Reitman the director...she's in fact stating that he(Reitman) and the producers would have fired her.
I don't disbelieve her statement, I just think this is an unfortunate norm in Hollywood...but she's singling out only one of the players.

[okie01]

"It was an election eve smear. If there was any substance to their charges against Arnold why didn't these women come forward years ago? Figures. And I hardly believe all of these women were so fragile that they couldn't say NO to a man and walk out if what he allegedly did offended them to begin with. There is no there there here."

Let us assume for a moment that the charges are true.

In which case, the charges regrettably got no traction for two distinct reasons:

a. Bill Clinton got away with it. The Democrats and the media protected him, thereby setting a new (and lower) standard for behavior by public officials.

b. The publicizer of the charges and their timing screamed "smear campaign". Due to their blatent political bias, the LA Times no longer has any credibility in such matters. Thus, the charges were, on their face, not believable.

Personally, I've no idea whether Schwartzenegger is guilty of these charges or not. But I'm not going to take the word of accusers who are dug up and promoted by the LA Times. And I'm not going to blame the public for not taking these charges seriously, because the media trivialized them by their own actions during the impeachment.

The liberal media has nobody but themselves to blame for massive public disinterest in. and dismissal of, the subject. That their actions have consequences is something they will never understand, however.

[Luetzow]

Well said!..Obviously the Facts of Life are not normal to these women...Fact:: Men grope Women, & WOMEN GROPE MEN!.It has been part of the normal Human Courting Behavior since there have been two reproductive genders..So, enough trying to make politics of sex, & sex of politics...Either complain or comply with the suggestion at the time, or shut up 20 years later!