[hellinahandcart]

Wanna read the rest???

There's more? I'm still hurling from exposure to Kip and Kelly.

[GeronL]

These people should not be calling themselves christians if they think he was some sort of social worker.

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Or maybe he died simply for his unpopular, even subversive beliefs rather than for the sin of the world.

That kind of thinking goes against classical atonement theology.

"It's our belief," Mr. Gibson told Primetime, "that by the sin of the first people, original sin, that the gates were closed to us, to eternal life, and that his sacrifice as a redeemer of all mankind was to open the gates to all of us again."

That viewpoint dominated the early centuries of the church, when the primary statements of faith were written. The Nicene and Apostles' creeds punctuate beliefs in the virgin birth, the Crucifixion and the Resurrection – but say nothing about Jesus' teachings.