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Mueller orders review of bombing investigation 2004-02-27 -- OKC Bombing
Breaking News The Oklahoman ^ | Feb 27, 2004 | John Solomon, AP

Posted on 02/27/2004 4:49:24 PM PST by PhiKapMom

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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for posting that info. Very interesting. I hope something comes of this, although I have my doubts. I'm afraid that the Clinton's evil hand still has a far reach. I still don't put anything past them in their desire and ability to cover up their evil ways.
121 posted on 02/28/2004 5:20:22 PM PST by Oorang ( I don't need information; I need intelligence)
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To: Nita Nupress
That terrorist motel deal has gotten some play here. Too much of coincidence to me and the fact that they never really followed up with the motel bothers me a lot.
122 posted on 02/28/2004 8:14:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: Oorang
I still don't put anything past them in their desire and ability to cover up their evil ways.

That makes two of us! Having _Jim show up once again to steer the thread makes me even more convinced.

123 posted on 02/28/2004 8:19:04 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Have you read this article? If so, what is your opinion?

Explosives Recipes Tie OKC to al Qaeda Manuals

124 posted on 02/28/2004 8:26:52 PM PST by Oorang ( I don't need information; I need intelligence)
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To: Nita Nupress; Zack Nguyen
Hello Nita! Haven't seen you much lately. God bless. :)

I was just thinking the same thing, NN. Good to see you!

I'm just laying back and enjoying watching other folks hammering our resident OKC FedShill (_Jim) as he tries to derail the thread by regurgitating his usual propaganda and ad hominem attacks.

I have long since grown tired of blowing him and his BS out of the water...

My hopes all along were that discovery in the OK trial of Nichols would bring out some of the evidence we all know is there -- but suppressed by the DOJ, et al. Now it may be about to happen... :-)

125 posted on 02/28/2004 8:38:55 PM PST by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home (and warm) in God's Country!!)
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To: Oorang; FairOpinion; Nita Nupress; PhilDragoo; Calpernia
Very interesting link especially the part about the Philippines where Nicholas was at for some time. I have never seen this link -- sends chills up my back!

Please see the link in #124.
126 posted on 02/28/2004 8:39:20 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: PhiKapMom
BOOKMARKED! And Thank You!!!
127 posted on 02/28/2004 8:55:04 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Having _Jim show up once again to steer the thread makes me even more convinced.

Many thanks for "carrying the load" for truth in OKC for a while!

As I told Nita Nupress a few posts back, I've long since tired of blowing _Jim and his BS out of the water...

If you want to have some fun with _Jim, ask him this some time:

"The FBI analyzed lots of blue plastic fragments (found on top of buildings) from the drums the ANFO/ANNM was supposedly in. McVeigh's alleged sketch of the truck loadout shows he put the three empty, bright blue steel nitromethane drums in the back of the truck, next to the door.
Where is the evidence that any trace of those three steel drums was ever found?"

(They should have wound up back by the Regency Towers -- near where the truck's rear axle landed on that little red car...)

I will bet you that _Jim will never answer -- except, perhaps, with some ad hominem sneer!

Check my FRProfile...

128 posted on 02/28/2004 9:17:04 PM PST by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home (and warm) in God's Country!!)
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To: TXnMA
"Check my FRProfile..."

I did and you link to okcbombing.org doesn't work!

129 posted on 02/28/2004 10:05:39 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: _Jim
So? What?
130 posted on 02/28/2004 10:10:11 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: TXnMA
I have to keep that one in mind! It really is amazing how he shows up immediately when you start discussing the Clintons involvement in a number of high profile cases that smell of cover-up. The 6th paragraph in the link at #124 talks about a Philippines connection. Thought this smell when I lived outside San Antonio when it happened but after moving to OK, it smells even more after touring the Bombing Museum. The night of the bombing, the local San Antonio TV station had a news crew outside the federal building where they were loading crates of items into vehicles and taking them to Kelly. It was stated it was the munitions stored in the basement of the Federal Building in case of attacks on either coasts, Middle America would be able to fight. They said the munitions were stored in Federal Buildings all over this part of the Country. I was up all night that first night and saw the report but several days later there was never another mention. Just like John Doe II -- no mention after several days.

Until the Clintons took office, I was never a conspiracy theorist -- they have managed to change all of that.

131 posted on 02/28/2004 10:10:34 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Excellent!!!
132 posted on 02/28/2004 10:15:00 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
I did and you link to okcbombing.org doesn't work!

Same results here. Looks like they may have let the domain registration expire -- or there is a DNS problem at their ISP. Last time I checked, the website was being maintained by some guy I never heard of. I'll check with Charles (Key) and the other Board members and see what I can find out.

Thanks for the heads-up!

BTW, I did the section on analysis of the collapse of the MFB. Needless to say, _Jim and I disagree on many points. Most of which deal with believing the FBI's badly-skewed presentation of the evidence -- especially the actual size of the truck-bomb crater.

133 posted on 02/28/2004 10:28:59 PM PST by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home (and warm) in God's Country!!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I knew the ATF had a munitions locker in the MFB, (9th floor, IIRC) But yours is the first report I've seen that the practice may have been much more widespread.

OTOH, I have seen no indication that the ATF's munitions played any role in the MFB's collapse.

Thanks!

134 posted on 02/28/2004 10:38:09 PM PST by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home (and warm) in God's Country!!)
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To: TXnMA; _Jim; PhiKapMom
_Jim's not all bad, but brother... Does he ever have an erection over this subject!!! He must search FR every hour, on the hour, looking for any oblique reference to this subject so he can pounce on any such posting and "clear the matter all up from his point of view ONLY!"

Like PhiKappaMom said about him showing up on the thread. I've seldom seen anyone so obsessed with putting something this suspicious down since the Warren Report!!!

135 posted on 02/28/2004 10:48:15 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: TXnMA; _Jim; PhiKapMom
_Jim's not all bad, but brother... Does he ever have an erection over this subject!!! He must search FR every hour, on the hour, looking for any oblique reference to this subject so he can pounce on any such posting and "clear the matter all up from his point of view ONLY!"

Like PhiKappaMom said about him showing up on the thread. I've seldom seen anyone so obsessed with putting something this suspicious down since the Warren Report!!!

136 posted on 02/28/2004 10:48:16 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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Huh? Wonder why that happened???
137 posted on 02/28/2004 10:49:41 PM PST by SierraWasp (I'm in contempt of contemptuous liberal courts! We cannot have a Stable Society with their Rule!!!)
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To: TXnMA
I was actually referencing more of something that was on the news and then totally disappeared just like John Doe #2. Found it strange that it occurred in the middle of the night of the bombing too. My understanding was this was widespread all of Middle America. Know several AFB's that received the munitions after this happened.

If the munitions would have brought down the building, you would have had them going off over a period of time would be my guess not all at once. I never really considered that to be what brought down the building.

138 posted on 02/28/2004 11:19:52 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04 -- Losing is not an Option!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Iraq is at the center of the OKC bombing, in the humble opinion of anyone with a brain.
139 posted on 02/28/2004 11:26:16 PM PST by Stallone (Guess who Al Qaeda wants to be President?)
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To: PhiKapMom; Nita Nupress
I was one of the first police officers on the scene of the Murrah Building back then, and it has haunted me every day since it happened.

I wanted answers, and I have never felt like I had them since the investigation ended. I am so glad they are re-opening this case, but I really want to know if they are sufficiently interested in following this case to its logical conclusion instead of just "band-aiding" it to please the public.

#1-
I want to know why the US Customs Service Intelligence Center (EPIC) in El Paso put out a warning a few days prior to the OKC Bombing warning law enforcement agencies to beware of possible terrorist attacks on Federal Buildings on APRIL 19, 1995? ( they claimed it may be retaliation for the Waco mess. They cant deny they did it, because I held this paper in my hand and read at roll call after it came off NCIC)

#2

I heard the BOLO for the two middle eastern men when it came out, and was activeley engaged in looking for the vehicle while also being involved in rescue operations. I also know the OCSO dispatcher personally who read it ovewr the air.

#3

I dont doubt there is some kind of connection to some organized group. Two men couldnt have pulled this off by themselves. I want facts, not some partial investigation and feel good conclusion. The FBI is a good organization when it comes to investigation. Why did they stop short in this case, and not dig up every bone in the graveyard? There has to be an explanation.

#4

The memorial is a good thing. I saw it the first time last year. I moved out of the area a few years after the bombing, and had never wanted to see it again. I probably won't see it again, however, because some government worker is now posted at the site telling the story to visitors, and I have a much different recollection of the scene in my memory. Once was enough for me.

I dont need the USPS to tell me the story of the OKC Bombing. I saw the wounded and the dying, smelled it, and saw the paper flying through the city streets. I want to forget it.

#5
If Clinton, Freeh, and Reno knew anything and intentionally squashed it, I want some type of justice so they learn that peoples lives are the not things to play with in order to get a political advantage.

Thanks to both of you for your interest and care. This history book definitely needs another chapter.
140 posted on 02/29/2004 7:53:06 AM PST by judicial meanz (Socialism is a mental disorder, and John Kerry is its national poster child)
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