[Zechariah11]

And by the way, all your scripture verse(#) quoting does not impress me. Much like the Pharisees.

So, you'd be one of the liberal Sadducees who hated the "Bible thumpers" of their day --yet conspired to crucify Christ? Btw, Christ quoted just a wee bit of Scripture in His sermons. He never got around to apologizing for that.

[ostephani]

You misunderstand. Jesus and the Pharisees used the scriptures differently. Jesus taught; the Pharisees distorted.

I teach math, but I remembered I do have a dictionary in my classroom. I looked up Gnostic. I see where maestro is coming from. He behaves like a Pharisee. I am not impressed.