You've got me there, that is correct. I should have said "bullshit". For that's what it is sans evidence.
There were eyewitness accounts about the shredders from multiple sources.
Sources with an axe to grind--for example read the article posted in #28 by another poster. That person and her org plainly went into the exercise with the object of emotionally swaying people to their cause.
Maybe not hard enough for you, but what can you expect in a country like Saddams Iraq?
No, not hard enough for me. What can I expect? That anyone who asserts it as fact can back it up. If they can't they should make that clear.
I will concede that the story is believable. But that's not the same thing.
Interesting that someone finally brought up Clinton. I remember how people went over every little lie he and his sycophants told; and I thought that was a good thing. I remember people saying that they were doing it because the truth matters; because letting lies go unchallenged corrodes the moral fabric of society. I agree. So why have so many people abandoned that standard? Did they really mean it when they said it? I am increasingly coming to doubt it.
No doubt, but believable because of what we knew about him.
That anyone who asserts it as fact can back it up. If they can't they should make that clear.
I actually agree with you, and now that, apparently, they cannot back it up, they should admit to it, but thats a long way from saying it was nothing but some propaganda lie.
I remember people saying that they were doing it because the truth matters; because letting lies go unchallenged corrodes the moral fabric of society. I agree. So why have so many people abandoned that standard? Did they really mean it when they said it? I am increasingly coming to doubt it.
There are lies, and there are mistakes, I don't see what is so difficult for some to see the difference. Clintons "lies" (I am not a Clinton hater BTW), were things that he knew for a fact were false. He bombed a Somali medicine factory based on faulty intelligence. That was not a lie (as far as I can tell that is). I just dont see the need to introduce boogymen into these arguments.