People making reports of such does in fact = "evidence". What do you mean by "without evidence"?
Let's posit the shredding machine never is found. Do you concede that the tales of tongues and limbs being hacked off before crowds has been thoroughly documented via videotape that has been shown on tv? If the machine story turns out to be a hyperbolic invention from desperate people in order to get us in to help them from atrocities that were beyond any doubt occurring, do you then say we went in under false pretenses because one form of torture on the list of many documented did not exist?
Yes. I never said otherwise.
If the machine story turns out to be a hyperbolic invention from desperate people in order to get us in to help them from atrocities that were beyond any doubt occurring, do you then say we went in under false pretenses because one form of torture on the list of many documented did not exist?
We went in under false pretense because a govt torturing its citizens is not a legitimate casus belli. We went in under the pretense of a threat to United States security. I seem to remember a politician saying that we are not the world's 9-1-1. Who was that....hmmm...I think his name was Bush.