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To: MeekOneGOP; Howlin; ohioWfan; George W. Bush; rintense
"Their reaction to the President’s handling of these issues should be a warning sign for the President. Conservatives are calling my show and telling me that they are not going to vote for George Bush because of his stand on amnesty or outsourcing, for example. And this simply amazes me. I ask them if they aren’t going to vote to re-elect George Bush are they going to vote for the Democrat? And the answer is inevitably, "NO! I’m not going to vote for anybody. I’m going to stay home on Election Day."

I can tell from the majority posts on this thread that it's fashionable to castigate such a position; however, eight months from the election, I would argue that this is a very respectable stance for conservative Republicans to take. Dubyuh's spending IS outta control and needs to be reined in...do we really believe he'll do it if all the pressure comes from those who are urging him to adopt the DemonRATS' big-spending proclivities? Heck no, Rove's already on record as saying conservatives have nowhere to go, all but saying "Screw us and all we hold dear!!" Threatening to sit out in November or vote Constitution Party will hopefully give Bush the political backbone to get spending under control, and he's already begun talking about cutting or eliminating 128 Federal programs and curtailing Discretionary Domestic spending to 1%. If he follows thru on this, I'll venture a lot of the disgruntled conservatives will return to the fold.

A similar issue is Dubyuh's proposed Non-amnesty Amnesty fer Illegals...I believe it is a principled conservative's duty to argue against such misguided policy!! Threatening to sit out--or vote third party--in November is a very respectable position, IMHO. And while I totally respect the BushOrBusters who dominate FReeperdom these days, I must admit that I grow tired with those who relentlessly criticize folks who are Conservatives first, and Republicans second. A more productive response--once again, IMHO--would be to help Dubyuh by getting to the crux of alienated Bush supporter's problems with Dubyuh and attempt overcome their hesitance to support Dubyuh again. Name-calling and derision simply solidifies their resolve to sit out what promises to be a very important election next November.

FReegards...MUD

224 posted on 02/27/2004 10:47:18 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Dubyuh's spending IS outta control and needs to be reined in...

Reread the Constituion, please.

226 posted on 02/27/2004 10:49:43 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Sorry, I think staying home on election day is the cowards way out.

Our fore fathers fought and died so that we can have a say in what your country does. When an individual gives up that right, they not only give up the right to bitch about the results actions, but they also dishonor those who fought and died so that you can vote.

And for anyone who thinks 'sitting this one out' will send a message to Rove, Bush, etc., think again. Do you honestly believe that? Look back at history. Hell, look back at the past 12 years. Has Bush managed to undo everything Clinton has done? No. Did Reagan undo everything Carter did? No. For every two steps forward a liberal takes, it takes a Republican at least one step backward to undo what has been done, quite often at the expense of conservatism.

So go ahead, sit this one out. You might as well sit every one out from this point on, because if Kerry is elected, you will NEVER see the kind of conservatism again that you see today in Bush today. Kerry would put our country on the fast road to hell. Now you might be saying, 'well Bush has us on the slow road to socialism. If we're going down that road, I'd rather do it and get it over with.' Well you know what? I'd rather take my chances trying to stop a slow moving train than trying to stop a train in the express lane.

PS: For anyone who thinks that any politician, regardless of party, will do or say everything they want, get back to the real world.

239 posted on 02/27/2004 11:13:08 AM PST by rintense
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To: Mudboy Slim
A more productive response--once again, IMHO--would be to help Dubyuh by getting to the crux of alienated Bush supporter's problems with Dubyuh and attempt overcome their hesitance to support Dubyuh again. Name-calling and derision simply solidifies their resolve to sit out what promises to be a very important election next November

Agreed, name calling bad- respectful discourse good.

It seems though, that it takes two to tango.

Also, it is dang late to be pushing for policy changes when the foxholes have been dug for the election.

That is all that most try (in vain) to point out.

That is what I am trying to point out.

Ok! back to your normal programming!

272 posted on 02/27/2004 1:35:50 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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