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Conservatives Contemplate Electoral Hari-kiri
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 2/27/04 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 02/27/2004 1:01:58 AM PST by kattracks

President Bush fired back at his Democratic critics Monday night. After being a sitting duck for the slings and arrows fired at him by the “Hate Bush Brigade”, the White House says the President plans to go on the offensive.

It’s about time. We need to see a tough, straight-talking, Texas-style George Bush hammering away at his detractors. He also needs to reach out to his conservative base and remind them of what’s at stake in this election, because he has a problem with a lot of them.

In recent weeks my conservative listeners have been talking about the same things Kerry and Edwards have been talking about. They’re talking about jobs even though the unemployment rate is only 5.6 percent. They’re talking about outsourcing, they’re talking about amnesty for illegal aliens – these are the things that people who listen to talk radio are concerned about.

Their reaction to the President’s handling of these issues should be a warning sign for the President. Conservatives are calling my show and telling me that they are not going to vote for George Bush because of his stand on amnesty or outsourcing, for example. And this simply amazes me. I ask them if they aren’t going to vote to re-elect George Bush are they going to vote for the Democrat? And the answer is inevitably, "NO! I’m not going to vote for anybody. I’m going to stay home on Election Day."

My reply is if you stay home and George Bush doesn’t win re-election and instead Kerry or whoever the Democrat candidate is gets elected, do you think things are going to get really better? And their answer is, "Well, no, but I want to take a stand."

They should remember Custer. He too took a stand. It was his last.

That just stuns me because it’s utterly irrational. They don’t understand they are taking a stand against themselves. By not voting they only help elect a liberal Democrat who wants to raise their taxes, enact all kinds of new spending programs. They would also endanger the nation by their already demonstrated ineptness and weakness in the war on terror, and hand over Iraq to the United Nations so it can create the same kind of mess we are now seeing in Haiti – another UN and Clinton "success."

They are wearing blinders that only allow them to focus on one issue. They say they won’t vote for a candidate who disagrees with them on one single issue even though he agrees with them on every other issue. It’s utterly self-defeating.

Even though they staunchly support George Bush on his stands on tax cuts, how he is fighting the war, and applaud his pro-life policies, they disagree with him on the amnesty issue, for example, and therefore can’t bring themselves to vote for him.

They’ll just stay home and help elect a Democrat who disagrees with them on just about everything. They’d enact socialist programs that would cripple U.S. industry, yet some of my listeners applaud them not realizing that if you drive a company’s profits down, you drive the value of their stock down and the millions of Americans whose 401Ks are invested in that firm suffer losses as a result.

When President Bush goes on the offensive, he’s going to have to remind Americans that if they want to pay low prices for the goods they need, the reason they are going to have to look overseas is because Democrats in Congress have so regulated American companies that the cost of doing business has risen. That’s due to the unions and government regulations that have become so prohibitive.

What’s the Democrat answer? Well, they say they’d make foreign nations enact the same kind of onerous regulatory and environmental burdens we have here that would force the prices of their goods up to the same level as ours. In other words, wreck their own economies to make John Kerry or some other demagogue look good.

Fat chance.

Mike Reagan, the eldest son of President Ronald Reagan, is heard on more than 200 talk radio stations nationally as part of the Premiere Radio Network.



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To: kattracks
George "Jobs that Americans won't do" Bush.
Putting "America",....make that "BUSINESSES" first.
321 posted on 02/27/2004 3:26:05 PM PST by Merdoug
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To: Tamsey
"There are a great many that understand the percentages involved and add their weight to the GOP to stand as a coalition..."

A lot of us want to be able to go into the pollbooths next November and support what Dubyuh's doing by lending him our vote. Sure, we complain when we feel he offends our RightWing sensibilities, but I continue to believe Dubyuh's got a conservative core that simply needs to be brought to the fore and squash the Milquetoast Moderates who seem to hold sway in his Administration on domestic spending. These folks seem to believe if you spend like a DemonRAT, you can win over the Left. However, as evidenced by the visceral HATRED the Left harbors for Dubyuh, it ain't necessarily so!!

"I was referring to the others on this site that seem to despise the GOP with their every atom. I've also seen some specifically mention looking forward to the death of the GOP someday and how the CP or LP can then thrive."

Certainly those folks exist, and many are disillusioned past the point of ever supporting the GOP again. They were around four years ago supporting Buchanan and I had folks actually tell me that they wanted things to get worse so that they could get better. I didn't agree with it then, and I don't agree with it now...I'd like incremental improvement, thankyouverymuch!! That's what frustrates me so much when Dubyuh supports an incremental growth in Domestic Discretionary spending, I feel like we're losing despite having OUR folks at the controls!!

FReegards...MUD

BTW...I tend to agree with the anti-GOP folks on one point...that is, I can foresee a possible scenario wherein the UltraLeft abandons the RATS and supports the Green Party (or the Socialist Party or whatever) and the GOP melds into the ModerateParty by joining with the leftover RATS, and a Constitution Party or a Libertarian Party swallows up the remains of the Right. However, this possibility ain't happening this time around, and won't happen if the HildaBeast runs in '08!!

322 posted on 02/27/2004 3:38:19 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
I failed to separate non-dicretionary as you did.

Yes, non-discetionary is the real boondoggle that Greenspan has been warning about for years.

Personally, when looking at the drug benefits that so many bemoan, it was going to happen anyway. The rat's programs had no language for modernization and even with it, they almost cut it out to get it through.

Medicare, as we all know, is a way of having nationalized medicine without really having it, but the large aged population demands government assistance and how could we realistically not have a program. But there is so much waste, and better means testing needs to be used now.

Social security, IMO is dead in only a few years. The program, as it is, cannot and will not survive.

I do not see any other options but to change it completely for the future. No options at all.

Having said this, there are a hundred or so others that can/should get the chop/chop!

Some are slated in the Bush budget. The rats are already howling.

323 posted on 02/27/2004 3:38:41 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Tamsey
Crazy glue??? .. I works faster I hear
324 posted on 02/27/2004 3:55:56 PM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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To: iconoclast
"I guess I'm quite a bit more disenchanted than you MUD. I didn't expect much from Bush Jr., but unfortunately got even less."

I share yer disenchantment, my FRiend...I actually thought that once we got a Republican POTUS to go with a Republican Congress, we'd actually start to see the Devolution of Power from the Federal Leviathan and back to the States, Localities, and Individuals that was promised in '94. Unfortunately, we got a bit too much triangulation from the White House on domestic matters, and it's tough to blame anybody but ourselves!! You gotta admit that it's been an unpredictable three years, and I believe there's still room fer Dubyuh to do what's right in his second term.

"IMHO, one election doesn't mean that much. Getting the Republican party back on the track means everything."

Having power is important for the next four years, but I agree that over the long-term, we could survive it. Still, it's a scary thought to imagine letting Hanoi John Kerry take over as Commander-in-Chief fer the next four years, as I can see him totally fouling up the War on Terrorism!! I'd much rather see Dubyuh joining our plea fer Fiscal Conservatism!!

FReegards...MUD

325 posted on 02/27/2004 3:58:24 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: wirestripper
discretionary!!!!!!!

I wrote it twice and still could not get it right.

326 posted on 02/27/2004 3:58:59 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Mo1
I works faster I hear

LOL! Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

327 posted on 02/27/2004 4:01:13 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Mudboy Slim
It'd be a drastic move fer me, as I've voted Reagan/Bush/Bush/Dole/Bush since I've been eligible, but the Constitution Party at least gives me an outlet if Dubyuh refuses to get the message

An outlet for what???

328 posted on 02/27/2004 4:01:52 PM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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To: wirestripper
*L* ... Oops
329 posted on 02/27/2004 4:02:41 PM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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To: wirestripper
"Social security, IMO is dead in only a few years. The program, as it is, cannot and will not survive."

I agree...as the Life Expectancy continues to rise, it's silly to think the retirement age should not move with it. The proper way to set up Social security is to say a certain percentage--say 20%--are eligible fer the benefits. At least then we'd have, say, 20% too young to work and 20% too old to work and the remaining 60% being the producers. The best solution, though, is to allow folks to build up their own nest eggs and retire whenever they get the urge, andf I hear rumors that that is where Dubyuh's legislation is headed!! I hope so.

FReegards...MUD

330 posted on 02/27/2004 4:04:04 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Sabertooth
Reagan should have titled this " President Bush Contemplates Electoral Hari-kiri", since it is the President who is starting to turn his back on victory in November by his suicidal Immigration and Free Trade initiatives.
331 posted on 02/27/2004 4:07:12 PM PST by TomasUSMC
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To: Mo1
"An outlet for what???"

An outlet to register my disapproval with Domestic Discretionary spending growing at an 8% per year clip. As a Virginian, I'm blessed to live in a State where RATS have not won our electoral votes since 1964 (LBJ), so I don't really haveta worry about my vote electing Kerry. That said, I'd much prefer Dubyuh getting the message and curbing outta control domestic spending, thereby allowing me to proudly cast my vote fer Dubyuh!!

FReegards...MUD

332 posted on 02/27/2004 4:09:15 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Mo1; wirestripper; panaxanax; WhiteGuy; stand watie; iconoclast; rintense
"Keep OUR Votes to Ourselves!!"
(To be sung to the Georgia Satellites' "Keep Yer Hands to Yerself")

We gotta little change in the offin'...gonna fight fer the RightWing...
Gonna call you on the telephone, Dubyuh...fer the Right we shall sing!!
'Cuz each time Right votes, we get the same old thing...
Always mo' guv'ment, mo' spending, well, we shan't fergit our dreams!!
Now Dubyuh, now Congress, don't put our trust upon no shelf...
We say, "Don't feed US no lies...we'll keep our votes to ourselves!!"

Now, Dubyuh and the RINOs, why you wanna treat US this way?!
Bush, Right's still yers to employ...DemonRATS can't feel our pain!!
Righteous shall remake history...yer The Man of the Hour!!
Right says, "Slash spending, cut Guv'ment...if you wanna stay in Power!!"
Now Dubyuh, our Nation, don't put our trust upon no shelf...
Right says, "Don't feed US no lies...or we'll keep our votes to ourselves!!"

(ConservativeMusician workin' the axe!!...MUD on harp...)

C'mon, Dubyuh, let's go.........oh yeah!!

Ya see, Right wants it real bad and Left's about to give in...
Now's when we start a'talkin' 'bout less pork...make our Guv'ment more Slim!!
Right says, "Dubyuh, we'll support ya fer the rest of our lives!!"
We said, "Big Guv'ment's fer sissies...don't you make it yer life!!"
Now Dubyuh, now Congress, don't put our trust upon no shelf!!
Right said, "Don't feed US no lies...or we'll keep your votes to ourselves!!"

(CM jammin' BIG-TIME...........plus MUD on harp)

Hell, yeah...MUD

695 posted on 12/23/2003
333 posted on 02/27/2004 4:19:58 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
LOL!,

Great job putting your thoughts into song, as usual.

334 posted on 02/27/2004 4:27:39 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: nopardons
Doing away with departments?, didn't happen.

There were some "chain of command" realignments and of course an entirely New Homeland Security Department created but no departments or budgets were eliminated.

What departments do I want to see eliminated?

Let's try for just ONE - Education - any complaints?

As far as your reference to Reagan or Ike - Neither apply here - I'm only commenting on the real life actions of the current government leadership.

As far as I'm concerned I haven't complained yet. I am interested in discussing the ways our current crop of elected officials have managed the out of control growth of government and spending, that's all. It seams that a whole bunch of people that I talk with think it's ok, go figure.

As far as who I'm voting for, I'll make up my mind in November.
335 posted on 02/27/2004 5:10:37 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Well I'm happy to hear that you live in such a lucky state .. I wish I could say the same .. unfortunately in Philly dead voters don't allow it

But don't forget, it is also possible for others to take that same attitude and the vote could swing the other way

I agree and wish the spending to be ALOT less .. but also don't forget that it was many of the congress folks that jam packed important bills with their pork projects
336 posted on 02/27/2004 5:12:08 PM PST by Mo1 (THE CUSTER CONSERVATIVES: "Not Smart... But Principled, Dammit!)
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To: Walkin Man
Gridlock CAN be a great thing!
337 posted on 02/27/2004 5:12:45 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (smaller government? you gotta be kidding!)
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To: wirestripper
We all care, that is why we are here.

I meant care about my opinion, I don't think everyone is here for that................(frightning)

Seriously, I like most are more interested in substance and facts than opinions.
338 posted on 02/27/2004 5:12:46 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Mudboy Slim
What ever you do for a living................

Quit,

You should write paradies for a living.

Georgia Satalites Bump
339 posted on 02/27/2004 5:20:43 PM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: WhiteGuy
I wouldn't mind getting rid of the Dept of Ed, but frankly, I can think of others I'd rather see go first and making that department actually work. But,considering what would ensue, don't hold your breathe.And how would President Bush get rid of any department? Just say : THIS IS IT, YOU NO LONGER EXIST ....BE GONE? Since no department has ever been done away with, I don't think there's even guidelines to do so. The Dems and the media would go berserk and so too would the great unwashed and uneducated.

The uproar over a lie (Bush was AWOL),was nothing compared to what would happen if he actually closed down the Dept of Ed! Look at how the Dems and the media handle actual acts, acts far minor to the disbandment of a government department.

So, you claim disinterest in any other president but the current one. Living in the moment, when attempting to use historical precedence, is disingenuous!

You won't decide who to vote for, until November? NOVEMBER ? Then don't post your "feelings" to FR until then. If your vote is mutable, then what you think now, doesn't matter. There are two and only two choices......Bush or Kerry. Staying home or voting fringe party is the same as voting for Kerry or whatever Dem is the candidate.

340 posted on 02/27/2004 5:26:57 PM PST by nopardons
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