[Free Trapper]

Something must be wrong with my 7.62x39 rifles. :{

All my 7.62x39 rifles have just about the same power as my 30-30s.Nothing close to the 30-06s.

[FreedomPoster]

I need some of that "equal to a 30-06" 7.62x39 ammo, too. If you find where I can get some, let me know.

How are you, stranger?

[FreedomPoster]

Thought you were Lion Den Dan; never mind. < /Emily Litella>

Time for coffee, the pot is done.

[yarddog]

Actually the 30-30 is a fair bit hotter than the Russian round. It loses that advantage at longer range because of the flat nosed bullets. Since it is not really a long range rifle anyway that is not important.

The 30-30 cannot be loaded really hot due to the lever rifles having rear locking plus the fact that for some reason, 30-30 brass is always very thin.

That doesn't mean you can't improve the ballistics tho. Factory loads are kept even tamer than necessary since there are still a lot of late 19th and early 20th century rifles out there.

I used to have an old Speer (I think it was Speer) manual which listed some pretty powerful loads for the 30-30, giving well over 2000 ft lbs. of energy. I noticed my newer ones have reduced that somewhat but still a couple of loads are over that 2000 figure.

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"All my 7.62x39 rifles have just about the same power as my 30-30s.Nothing close to the 30-06s."

My mistake. I shouldn't try to post anything before 7 AM (EST)!!