[Dan from Michigan]

I read that too, and oppose the amendment, but those bullets are 'already banned'. (Black talons)

The 'definition' of those bullets aren't changed.

[TigersEye]

Black Talons are not AP bullets they are just the opposite.

Are you intentionally ignoring the connection between banning AP ammunition and starting a study to determine what "AP" ammunition is?

[B4Ranch]

I saw some for sale at a recent gun show. They were .50 cal and $3 a piece.

[BCR #226]

Black Talon isn't AP ammunition.

It's a pre scored hollowpoint with no better penetration than any other hollow point.

Mike

[El Gato]

I read that too, and oppose the amendment, but those bullets are 'already banned'. (Black talons)

Black Talons are not armor piercing by current definition. They aren't really banned, Winchester renamed them, and sells them to LEO, they make a similar performing bullet for civilians. The black talon was designed to expand, not to penetrate vests, quite the opposite actually. There bad rep was due to the "claws" that formed from the jacket, not because they would penetrate a vest any better than any other jacketed hollow point.