NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig's Ammunition Ban Amendment

KeepAndBearArms.com ^ | February 26, 2004 | Angel Shamaya

[Travis McGee]

If 30-30 goes, it all goes. Getting close to crunch time, our Lords seem to be getting panicked by all the armed peasants.

[ChicagoHebrew]

When the NRA supports a gun control bill, I think it's safe to say it's a good bill.

I don't want to sound like Rosie O'Donnell (I strongly believe that "For every Jew, a 22"-- and fervently support gun rights), but you don't need an armor piercing bullet to defend your home, go hunting, or form the citizen's militia that defends against government oppression. About the only thing you need armor piercing ammunition for is killing cops.

[philetus]

Notice Kennedy doesn't even want the cops to have guns?

Yhey would be next, after the citizens.

[Imal]

If this article is correct, then why is Larry Craig an NRA director?

[Imal]

You may want to examine the slippery slope of such arguments.

[philetus]

It's also good for cheap jackrabbit hunting with an .06.

[ApesForEvolution]

Screw the NRA and screw the GOP. One party promises to screw us fast and the other slow. They are both rapists.

They're both about as worthless as t*ts on a boar hog...

[ApesForEvolution]

Wow. You're brilliant. /sarcasm

[philetus]

armor piercing ammunition has been around since wwI.
Not too many stories of cops being killed with it.

[ApesForEvolution]

Anyone that doubts the knuckle dragging communist RATS intentions to disarm Americans and reign with a tyrannical fist over all is about as sharp as a bag of marbles...

[philetus]

All politicians.

[philetus]

You ever heard of a politician who learned from history?

[Mr. Mojo]

you don't need an armor piercing bullet to defend your home

From the article: "If government employees can deploy AP ammo against the people, denying that same ammunition to the people is directly contradictory to the meaning, purpose and intent of the Second Amendment: a balance of power."

[need_a_screen_name]

When will people learn that Angel Shamaya is nothing much more than a rumor-mongering, anti-NRA activist?? Shamaya is so far out in left field on this one he is in the stadium parking lot.

The Craig amendment authorizes a two year study of so-called armor piercing ammuntion. It is NOT a ban on anything. This looks like an alternative to the Mikulski/Kennedy bans.

It just requires a study and the enhanced penalties for AP ammo possession or use in violent crime. It doesn't say anything about additional legislation after the study - just that there should be a study.

Quit jumping the gun until you have all the facts!!

[SevenDaysInMay]

Kenetics bump.

[B4Ranch]

NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig's Ammunition Ban Amendment

I need you to tell me again why the NRA is OUR savior.

Earlier today you wrote, " Oh, Bullsh!t. The NRA is blocking those amendments."

You have been in this pro NRA mode since I can recall, now I'm asking you to take off your blinders and realize that when an amendment restricting the 2nd Amendment comes from an NRA Director that you do not have the FULL picture of what has been happening!

These people are becoming afraid that a patriot will start shooting at them in their bullet proofed limousines. That can be the ONLY reason for their fear of civilians having armor piercing ammunition!

"Let's send a message that armor piercing ammunition is flat off limits," said Sen. Craig.

Sir, I am asking you to sit down and start thinking about how YOU have been taken to the cleaners by their smooth talk. You are the one who swallowed it "hook, line and sinker"

Wayne LaPierre isn't afraid for his life, it is the elected governmental officials attempting to defeat the 2nd, who have reason to fear young angry, rash thinking civilian patriots. NRA Director Sen. Larry Craig is the NRA Director who is pushing this amendment, not the NRA membership!

I'm simply asking you to take the time to do a serious reconsideration of your views.

[El Gato]

When the NRA supports a gun control bill, I think it's safe to say it's a good bill.

Riight. They supported the '68 gun control act, the 1934 National Firearms Act, and others. Their "compromise" on the NFA was that the original bill would have put handguns under the same controls as machine guns. No bill that infringes upons the right of the people to keep and bear arms is a "good bill" by Constitutional definition.

The NRA's strategy has almost always been to limit the damage, rather than trying to prevent it entirely, or should the worst happen, hope the people press the "reset button". They've contributed greatly, if inadvertently, to the "boiling of the frog".

[B4Ranch]

"It just requires a study and the enhanced penalties for AP ammo possession or use in violent crime. It doesn't say anything about additional legislation after the study - just that there should be a study. "

Those blinder are getting uncomforatble, aren't they. Who promoted the seat belt study?

[El Gato]

but you don't need an armor piercing bullet to defend your home, go hunting, or form the citizen's militia that defends against government oppression. About the only thing you need armor piercing ammunition for is killing cops.

Who's the government to decide what I need, especially in light of the Constitutional prohibition on doing just that with regard to arms. Besides, real AP, not just regular ammo that can penetrate a vest designed to stop pistol bullets, could come in mighty handy should the need to defend against government oppression ever become acute, which is undoubtedly what bothers the policritters. Secondly the performance standards for legally defined AP would likely sweep up virtually all center fire rifle ammunition, and that you do need to hunt, defend your home, etc, etc.

[Richard-SIA]

You must be kidding?

Today the .50, tomorrow the .49, then the .450, the .338, .308, .223, .17......

We cannot accept ANY further erosions of our RKBA!

The slope is too slippery already, it is time to get some traction and begin REPEALING all "gun control" legislation.

The current limit of .50 was arbitrary, and made the very rare .55 Boyes rifle an NFA weapon for no legitimate reason.

So far as I know NRA does not support this amendment, I have already e-mailed them about it. I expect an answer in the morning.

Personally, I want a 20mm anti-tank gun.
The .50 may not not be enough for some scenario's that I can easily envision.

RKBA is NOT about "Hunting", it is about citizens retaining the credible ability to resist our own government if it ever becomes truly tyrannical.