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1 posted on 02/26/2004 1:05:33 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: JmyBryan
Bump for a long read later tonight.
2 posted on 02/26/2004 1:09:18 PM PST by Between the Lines
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To: AdamSelene235
bump.

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3 posted on 02/26/2004 1:14:16 PM PST by zechariah ("The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend.")
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The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year.

This sounds like bunk. Most of the people "killed" by "conventional medicine" would have been dead long before without it. Take me, for example. I would have been dead at age 21 without conventional medicine, from complications of gall bladder disease which had caused stones to completely block any bile from leaving my liver, causing my liver to be under extreme pressure (danger of rupturing) and bile to be backing up into my bloodstream. I could not eat or drink at all. So "conventional medicine" used anesthesia, antibiotics, and a boatload of other stuff to put me back in working order. But according to this article's methodology, if I die today from a reaction to a drug, "conventional medicine" killed me. And a huge percentage of medical error and medication interaction deaths are in the elderly, few of whom would still be alive to be victims of these problems, were it not for prior help from "conventional medicine" at some point(s) in their lives. Utter nonsense.

4 posted on 02/26/2004 1:15:41 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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This is fishy. I think the actual conclusion is that illnesses that require hospitalization contribute to the deaths of ~700,000 a year. They list 115,000 as dying from bedsores a year. Yes, this is huge, but it doesn't recognize the fact that people get bedsores because they are bedridden, it is very hard to keep someone who is completely bedridden from getting such bedsores, and they are very difficult to treat. If the bedridden were not in hospitals that are used to treating the bedridden to prevent bedsores (cushioning, changing the patient's position frequently, and even the use of specialized slings for paralyzed patients) the numbers would be vastly higher. And 88,000 dying of infection is large as well, but most people who are hospitalized suffer from compromised immune systems so a certain number of fatal infections are inevitable. Malnutrition? Are they claiming that doctors are starving patients? These are probably those in the last stages of terminal disease--cancer patients and those with AIDS, with some anorexic patients included as well. Surgery-related deaths are supposed to amount to 32,000 a year, but I think any of us would realize that life-saving surgeries carry a chance of fatality also. And what do deaths in Outpatients and Unnecessary Procedures include? As well, they do not consider that many unnecessary procedures are only found to be unnecessary after they are completed, and in some cases turn out to be completely necessary and initiate life-saving care.

I'm not convinced. The classifications are at times to vague and fail to consider that people being treated by the medical profession are ill and much more likely to die from a myriad of causes than the general population whether in a hospital or in any other setting.

I agree that there are unnecessary treatments given and that antibiotics are overused, but this is a far cry from saying receiving medical care is the leading cause of death.

5 posted on 02/26/2004 1:22:41 PM PST by ahayes
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To: aruanan; bonesmccoy
Here we go again.....
10 posted on 02/26/2004 2:01:58 PM PST by TomB
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To: JmyBryan
Bump.
12 posted on 02/26/2004 2:08:11 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: JmyBryan
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13 posted on 02/26/2004 3:13:24 PM PST by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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