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'Descendents Of Dragon' Confirmed At Laiohe River Valley
Peoples Daily ^ | 2-26-2004

Posted on 02/26/2004 12:30:26 PM PST by blam

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To: blam
I read this book a few years ago by Dr Nancy Yaw Davis, very interesting and maybe a source of Buddhism among the American Indians.

The Zuni Enigma

Very interesting--looks like I'm heading back to the library again soon, LOL! While I was there today getting Mummies of Urumchi I also picked up some books on Asian and American Indian art to see if I could identify any parallels, and one thing I was meaning to look at was the possibility of Japanese influence on Indians of the American Pacific coastline, which sounds like it would fit well with the thesis of Davis' book. The art of Pacific Northwest Indians has always intuitively struck me as similar to Pacific islanders' art, which I've guessed might reflect Japanese influence. I hadn't considered the possibility of Japanese influence on Southwestern tribes as well--very interesting idea. Thanks for the reference!

41 posted on 02/27/2004 8:34:20 PM PST by Fedora
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Fascinating. I'd be interested to know if they're getting their ideas on that from anything that's been published among Buddhists over there. My Tibetan Buddhist friend has mentioned that he's heard there are some parallels between certain aspects of Buddhist belief and SW American Indian myth, which makes me wonder if perhaps Buddhist authors have also collected some data on the subjects we're considering.

Thailand is a developing country as opposed to a third world country and as such has a well developed University system which has just come into its own recently. The country is one big archaeological site with the Buddhist Sangha very involved. There are also several foreign Universities with people over there most of the time. Of course, Buddhists have specific interests but they are not really closed minded. It is a lot easier to dig in a wat coumpound than on an American Indian reservation. Kings Rama IV, Rama V, and Rama VI were particularly interested in Archaeology and invited American, French, Dutch and British archaeologists in. Now I know that the University of Penn. and U of Minn., are among the American schools working with Thammasat Univ. Fine Arts Department on both sites and restorations. A French group was working with Chiang Mai University near Lamphun on a Dravidian / Mon site going back about 1600 years. Additionally, there are neolithic and bronze age sites active when funds become available near Chaing Mai.

One of the people I talk to a lot is a retired Engineering professor from Chiang Mai University. If his wife were in better health, he would like to become a monk again at a temple near Nan. Others I have talked to are from Char Hae, near my wife's home in Phrae Province. These people are quite well read -- much more so than I. A lot of the temples are 600 to 700 years old and are built on earlier sites -- some going back to 300 AD. Signs of Buddhism are sparse going back that far but in the Northeast, Khmer Hindu temples (some later converted to Buddlist), are literally all over the place.

The very early periods of Ban Chiang pottery have designs similar to both Southwestern and Southeastern USA. However, most pottery of that period (5,000 to 8,000 years ago)worldwide can be said to be similar to the later Native American pottery.

42 posted on 02/28/2004 7:14:39 PM PST by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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Very interesting info. I'll have to read up on some of that. Do you know if they've found anything in Thailand contemporary with India's Mohenjo-Daro/Harappa culture (2500-1700 BC)?
43 posted on 02/28/2004 8:20:40 PM PST by Fedora
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Re: Serpent Mound: I was leafing through this book yesterday and it gives locations for a number of other serpent-shaped mounds and earthworks throughout North America:

Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Atlas of the Mysterious in North America

Incidentally, there's a lot of other interesting (and often strange) info in this book. Although the author generally takes politically-correct issue with the hypothesis that North American burial mounds might be of European origin, p. 62 mentions that one North American cairn occurs at a known Norse site in Newfoundland, L'Anse aux Meadows. Crossreferencing of this site with the author's accompanying map shows that the site is near another burial mound dated to 2000 BC, the L'Anse Amour Burial Mound, and is also south of a Labrador stoneworks site at Nulliak Island that resembles sites in New England which the colonists attributed to the Celts.

44 posted on 02/29/2004 12:07:31 PM PST by Fedora
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Looks interesting. However, it is 9 years old. That's getting to be a long time in this business these days. LOL. How could you go wrong for $5.50 though.
45 posted on 02/29/2004 2:10:51 PM PST by blam
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Looks interesting. However, it is 9 years old. That's getting to be a long time in this business these days. LOL. How could you go wrong for $5.50 though.

ROFL! At the rate new stuff is coming out sometimes I feel like 9 days is a long time these days! :)

46 posted on 02/29/2004 2:31:24 PM PST by Fedora
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Dragon's are frequently associated with comets by ancient people.,

And with serpents

The solar wind can cause the comet's tail to twist and appear to writhe. This is illustrated by this APOD picture of Comet Ikeya-Zhang:

We don't see too many large comets these days, or this effect would be much more widely known.

47 posted on 02/29/2004 2:59:17 PM PST by e_engineer
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I saw a special about the Tunguska impact in 1908. It included interviews with the local natives. One strange thing that kept 'popping-up' was that many said they heard the incoming asteroid(?) before they saw it. Also, Eskimos pepeatedly say that they can hear the Northern lights, scientific measurements detect zero noise.
48 posted on 02/29/2004 3:27:13 PM PST by blam
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49 posted on 04/01/2005 11:37:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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just a ping, no reason. ;')


50 posted on 04/01/2005 11:38:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
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Did someone misplace an Unas?
51 posted on 04/01/2005 11:41:11 PM PST by Redcloak (But what do I know? I'm just a right-wing nut in his PJs whackin' on a keyboard..)
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