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Have you considered that your problems aren't really with the Catholics "long knives" but an internal anger stemming from some sort of War of the Sexes?

No problem, really. Just reality. It's a war started by Jesuits who absolutely savaged me in college, where I had the temerity to question them. I cannot begin to tell you the contempt I was subjected to for making 100%s, worse yet for often having the only perfect scores in a 60% men's college. Didn't I know my place? Such nasty glares, such turnings away in disgust, such long knives, day after day. No congratulations, no smiles, no pats on the back. Especially no pats, because heavens, I was an occasion of sin. Nothing more. They had zero interest in what they termed my "immortal soul." I don't think they believed that women had souls at all.

This discussion of Mel's movie has been extremely useful. After five years at FR, I am going to tender my resignation. Equating approval of the Passion with being a good person and worthy conservative disgusts me. Yes, such flame wars are going on on various threads. I don't want to be associated with the religious right any more. I don't want to be part of a pseudo-political movement that thinks it owns the President of the United States. You guys are going to kill him with your demands that he function as some sort of high priest of America. Pity, pity, pity. He's a good man with decent instincts.

"Profoundly bitter and hateful?" Because I don't like priests and didn't care all that much for The Passion? Yes, I'm angry! Name ten Freepers who aren't. But I'm no longer angry about the same things you are.

The Jesuits used to be a noble organization, but that was actually, and unfortunately, quite a while ago. Something has happened to them. I'm not sure what. It may have in fact been deliberate infiltration, I'm not sure. But they're not what they used to be, and in a lot of ways they don't reflect the positions of the Vatican anymore. In a lot of cases, I've seen them contradict the Catechism lately too. I don't know that I would judge the Church as a whole by just the modern-day Jesuits.

The ancient Jesuits were an impressive bunch, but these days? I find it very very sad, and I'm agnostic.

Sorry to hear that you went through a bad experience with them.

Qwinn

Yes, I'm angry!

Well, at least you admit there is a problem, that's half the battle.

Didn't I know my place? Such nasty glares, such turnings away in disgust, such long knives, day after day.

Well I'm no priest, and I have many problems with the shameful Catholic Church. Rather than any scholastic background in theology, I happily attended one of the top 5 schools of Psychological Science, and I can tell you that sentiments like this clearly show problems going far beyond Catholicism, men, or a movie. This even smacks a bit of a persecution complex. Not knowing you I can only say that you need to relax and attempt to reflect on what has made you CONTINUE to be so very bitter years later.

After five years at FR, I am going to tender my resignation.

Well as a duly noted representative of FR, I accept. I might add that this is a wise choice on your part, you need to get away from the flaming environment.

I don't want to be part of a pseudo-political movement that thinks it owns the President of the United States. You guys are going to kill him with your demands that he function as some sort of high priest of America.

See statements like this are just extrodinarily overgeneralizing and stereotypical, common among those suffering and needing to lash out at someone. You don't know me from Adam, yet talk about me "killing him" with demands I've certainly never made. To use a non scientic term its...kinda creepy.

But I'm no longer angry about the same things you are.

That goes without saying. Hope you have a better day, and please think about what I am saying about avoiding flame wars and contemplating what possible good it serves you to be so angry in your heart.