[cyncooper]

I for one, and I'm sure others, do understand what it says in the Gospels. We do not therefore hate Jews, as you would like to say.

Yes, it does say PP was reluctant and washed his hands and that the crowd cried out for Jesus to be the one to die.

You wish to put a period there, and draw conclusions that you project on others.

It's really sad, combining your baseless assertions with your hostility.

Peace be with you.

[Hacksaw]

Donh is an anti-Catholic and is one of the flakes that hangs out on the evolution threads. That is all that needs to be said.

[donh]

You wish to put a period there, and draw conclusions that you project on others.

I hardly put a period there. The entire story, in its many recountings, is variously about the sanhedren, the pharasees, or the jews in general betraying jesus to the romans. This is hardly a subtext, it is part and parcel of the agony of christ that he was betrayed by his own people to the romans. I am not "drawing conclusions", I am reading the text as if it means what it says, and quite plainly and repeatedly and celebratedly so, I might add, your protestations to the contrary notwithstanding. When you add this to the unambiguous, and centrally important claims about who is saved: those who acknowledge christ as saviour, and recognize who, specifically, is therefore not saved--orthodox jews, you have all the recipe you need for centuries of biblically inspired jew-murder. As, in fact, we plainly observe when we look back through europe's shabby history of intolerance and repression, periodically giving way to pulpit-orchistrated local genocides.