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'Jews Killed Jesus' Billboard Causing Controversy
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| 02/25/04
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Posted on 02/25/2004 12:20:14 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: AppyPappy
Gotcha.
I was not thinking that they had become "Christians" ( a term not yet in existence at the time), but rather that they had stopped being Jewish, since they believed that the Messiah had arrived.
The logic that I missed was that a Jew (at that time), who believed that the Messiah had arrived, did not stop being Jewish. Rather he was a Jew who was witnessing a prophecy fulfilled. It was only later when the Jewish leaders decided that Jesus was not, in fact, the Messiah, that a departure between the Disciples and Jewish Church/Synagogue developed.
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posted on
02/25/2004 2:38:16 PM PST
by
Michael.SF.
('After all, Jesus was born to a homeless couple' - Hillary Clinton (paraphrased))
To: Pikamax
Film at 5:00! What the Paster Gordon handle live rattle snakes and drink strychnine.
Parental Discretion is Recommended!
To: Pikamax
The large-size outdoor marquee, which sits on the property of the Lovingway United Pentecostal Church at Colorado and Mississippi, says, "Jews Killed The Lord Jesus" and the word "Settled!" Misleading article. When you quote quotes you don't leave them out. The sign says '"Jews Killed The Lord Jesus"'
To: yonif
"What's wrong with this guy?"
Sorry, pod'nah. I've run into administrators like this before, who pull idiotic stunts like this. They are probably trying to promote a struggling ministry through their own efforts and latching on to the controversy over "The Passion." Whatever the excuseand I'm going to be contacting themit will be pretty lame.
It's like any other group, you have the sensible, wise, levelheaded and professional, then you have the few idiots with no sense whatsoever. I'd be really curious as to how big this particular outfit is, as well as their effectiveness in the local community. Probably real poor. I have a close email friend in the area who should know the local deal.
Nevertheless, I'm going to make sure they don't profit off of this, at the expense of others. A few Free Republic Christians challenging them on their motives and re-evaluating their priorities should resolve this nonsense.
I'll CC you and the rest of the crew in the regular mail.
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posted on
02/25/2004 2:45:25 PM PST
by
Salem
(FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
To: joesnuffy
Because it's like when Jesus would heal the sick. I can't think of the citations now, but he would say things like I heal your physical illnesses and you will become ill again. See that your spirit is well that you may go to the Father and never be sick again.
Likewise he could have wiped the Romans off the earth, but it wouldn't have changed human nature any. It would have just created a power vacuum and another millenium of darkness. As it turned out, the Roman Empire was NECESSARY to spread the word of the Gospel far and wide.
This pastor may be misguided, but I don't think we need to go all PC on him. He's entitled to his opinion. Remember that concept?
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posted on
02/25/2004 2:50:14 PM PST
by
johnb838
(J. Effing Kerry, Esq., Traitor, Benedict Arnold was a war hero)
To: Pikamax
This actually surprises me that a United Pentecostal pastor would take this position. I have relatives who belong to this denomination and have visited United Pentecostal churches many times when I used to live in Louisiana with these particular relatives. I personally know a couple of United Pentecostal pastors as well. Those churches that I visited, and those pastors - indeed the whole of the church bodies - were very vocal supporters of Israel and the Jewish people. I believe this guy is an anomoly, in this denomination, with regard to his beliefs.
To: hellinahandcart
We used to have so much fun with the marquee in the school cafeteria, while we were waiting in line. By the time we were done, the menu would offer things like "whole parrots" (instead of 'whole carrots") and "cream of hot dog soup"..."Roast barf" here...Do I have to tell you that we were in college when we did that?!
To: Pikamax
Oh, for...
I killed him, all right?
It started out as a simple coke deal; and then words were exchanged... guns were drawn... and the whole sorry mess just bobsledded south from there.
There. "Settled!," as the popular saying (apparently) goes. Now we can all move forward, and get along with the rest of our lives. :)
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:03:03 PM PST
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
(I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
To: Salem
If the Jews (or anyone else) killed Jesus then that negates Jesus' statement that HE laid HIS life down and HE would take it up! BUT Salem, we know that HE laid HIS life down and that HE took it up! AND HE IS LORD!
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:03:09 PM PST
by
TrueBeliever9
(The Kingdom of God is a Force and the forcer [prayer warrior] forces the Force!)
To: joesnuffy
Outstanding post.
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:06:13 PM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
To: Pikamax
The large-size outdoor marquee, which sits on the property of the Lovingway United Pentecostal Church at Colorado and Mississippi, says, "Jews Killed The Lord Jesus" and the word "Settled!" Mel Gibson disagrees. That's his hand putting the nails in during the crucifixion scene.
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:07:52 PM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
To: Pikamax
How about
Jesus was a jew.
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:07:56 PM PST
by
ChadGore
("Maybe they thought Saddam would lose the next Iraqi election")
To: hellinahandcart
all some Denver freepers have to do is drive to this church in the dead of night and rearrange the letters to say...something elseI'm considering it.
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:12:17 PM PST
by
mollynme
(cogito, ergo freepum)
To: All
Americans have been punished all of our lives for the treatment of blacks and Indians long ago, before any of us were born, and it is intensifying. Affirmative Action, Civil Rights, Reparations.
Indeed, most of us who are being punished did not even have any ancestors in the Old South, or on the Frontier.
If Jews were punished today for having killed Jesus, it would only do to them, what the Left has done to US, and continues to do more and more, no sign of a letup.
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:17:48 PM PST
by
Chris Talk
(What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
To: mollynme
Don't go alone, girl! And do some good recon first! ;D
To: steve50
"How about "Government Executes Jesus for Sedition."Except they didn't. The Roman Governor, Pilate, declared Jesus innocent.
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:24:26 PM PST
by
MEGoody
To: All
We all killed Jesus...when The Fall happened in Eden, it was necessary that there be a sinless sacrifice for the salvation of man. This was the will of G-d. Thus enters the Messiah...
God presented Himself to us as the Perfect Man in the form of Jesus of Nazereth...but we couldnl't percieve it. Only the Holy Spirit of G-d causes you to you understand, and this is the beauty and mystery of G-d.
The death of Christ is not important except in understanding that He died as a sinless sacrifice for ALL our sins...what's the most important point in all of christainity to remember is that Jesus rose from the dead, forever defeating death, and the hold that Satan and sin had on our souls....G-d, through his son, has defeated death, and guarenteed eternal life.
To: T Minus Four
Ping
To: hellinahandcart
with the letters: jewskilledthelordjesusthesssettled121415!! you can make:
Silk 2 jewels sold here!
5 teeth 4 just 111!
Ltd stds
That probably won't work as a clever message, though. ;^)
To: TrueBeliever9; American in Israel; Mr. Silverback; joesnuffy; Happy2BMe
"If the Jews (or anyone else) killed Jesus then that negates Jesus' statement that HE laid HIS life down and HE would take it up! BUT Salem, we know that HE laid HIS life down and that HE took it up! AND HE IS LORD!"
Exactly, and my own doctrinal position on this whole issue. Debating who "killed Jesus," whether Roman or Jew, is superficial and short-sighted, as they were just tools in the execution of a much wider plan for the salvation of the Gentile worldand inevitably, the House of Israel.
We are, and always have been, in their debt.
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posted on
02/25/2004 3:58:58 PM PST
by
Salem
(FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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