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Mars rover Daily Updates -Spirit Making Ground - Opportunity-A Beautiful Grind
NASA - JPL ^ | 2-24-2004 | NASA/JPL

Posted on 02/24/2004 4:52:19 PM PST by Phil V.

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To: Phil V.
"I wonder if they have a little can of compressed air"

LOL, it would sure come in handy here!

41 posted on 02/24/2004 10:56:50 PM PST by FireTrack
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To: Piltdown_Woman
"concretions" . . . as in requiring a liquid environment to form? Past liquid environment is where my thoughts track.
42 posted on 02/24/2004 10:57:44 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: Phil V.; All
Note the round, darkened "circles". They seem to be a couple of the "spheres" that have been found everywhere, but scraped in half by the wheel as it dug the trench. If so, it indicates that they're a lot softer than we might have first presumed. They can't be rocklike in consistency, or else they'd either have crumbled more jaggedly, or remained whole and been dragged through the "dirt".

They seem to have more the consistency of "dirt clods", which would significantly narrow down how they might have formed.

43 posted on 02/24/2004 10:58:07 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: FireTrack
Look above those 4 vertical dots you saw and tell me if you don't see something else...i.e. the "rest of it?"

44 posted on 02/24/2004 10:59:32 PM PST by Indie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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To: Lawdoc
I have to agree with Piltdown_Woman in the above post. These images just aren't that great plus these apparent artifacts may not be biological fossils at all.

A positive is that there appear to be differing types. At the very least, the odds of a significant find just increased from this grind.
45 posted on 02/24/2004 11:03:46 PM PST by FireTrack
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To: Phil V.
neat, looks like a fosil of a "maggot"
46 posted on 02/24/2004 11:06:44 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Ichneumon
These are not microscopic images of the trench, Ichneumon. These are images from an area of rock that was drilled/ground into by the rock abrasion tool - grinding for two hours . . . about 4mm . . . about 1/8".
47 posted on 02/24/2004 11:08:40 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: Indie
Yes, I noticed that. If you look at the original, larger image and do a little zooming, you will see others that have more contrast.

Look above the black rectangle and 80% down the length starting from the left edge and you will see another circle of dots.
48 posted on 02/24/2004 11:11:56 PM PST by FireTrack
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To: Phil V.
"concretions" . . . as in requiring a liquid environment to form? Past liquid environment is where my thoughts track.

Yes, it would require an aqueous environment according to the geology that we are familiar with (Earth). Here's a good link to a page describing concretions:

Concretions, Thunder Eggs and Geodes

49 posted on 02/24/2004 11:16:52 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: Indie
One other thing Indie, I see several scattered striations in this grind similar to the striations in the body of the critter you posted.
50 posted on 02/24/2004 11:17:13 PM PST by FireTrack
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To: Indie
Awww..."eurypterid" read my mind. LOL!
51 posted on 02/24/2004 11:18:15 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
LOL
52 posted on 02/24/2004 11:22:12 PM PST by FireTrack
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To: Piltdown_Woman
You'd think for a GEOL minor, I'd have remembered the name. LOL. PALEO was my favorite.
53 posted on 02/24/2004 11:24:36 PM PST by Indie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.")
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To: Piltdown_Woman
thanx . . . tomorrow's read . . . gnite!
54 posted on 02/24/2004 11:39:56 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: Phil V.; All
I'll say goodnight too...
55 posted on 02/24/2004 11:53:17 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: Phil V.
check out #25 . .

Looks like a clam.

I'm talking about how a clam looks when it's open; this looks like there's a clamshell with the hinge on the bottom, and we're looking down on the gap opposite the hinge. I don't see it so much as a "spiral" (as another poster mentioned -- I'm still going through the thread), but as the wavy pieces of clam "flesh" that one sees between the inner part of a shell half and the "foot" in the middle.

I'm not saying that's what it is, of course. It's just what it looks like to me. (I'm tired, getting ready for "in-office surgery" tomorrow morning, and may very well be in "rorschach_mode:on")

56 posted on 02/25/2004 12:03:23 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Phil V.
That ball looks like it might have a second "peach line", at about the 4 o' clock position.
57 posted on 02/25/2004 12:13:45 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Phil V.
I hope that my "gut" is mistaken, but I'll not be surprised to see this wealth of photographic public domain evidence "dry up".

Nor would I, given the deafening silence. "Elephant? What elephant? There's no elephant under the rug!"

58 posted on 02/25/2004 12:14:51 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Phil V.
Those dropout areas and the artifacted-to-hell rectangle will have the tinfoil brigade wetting their pants. (And foaming at the mouth.)
59 posted on 02/25/2004 12:20:12 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: FireTrack
The lower left quarter of that photo has what looks like star-like somethings in the roughly triangular "ravine" .
60 posted on 02/25/2004 12:23:17 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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