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(Regarding nukes in US cities)

In my opinion I believe the intel reports I have heard over the phone in person-to-person conversation of intelligence sharing within the past month that there are approximately 40 such devices currently within the borders of the United States. That is the number mentioned by a US SOF operator who I am told is a member of one of the search teams.

If suitcase nukes are here in the USA, they would have been used already.
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Upon what do you base this assumption?

Indeed, and we have every indication that beginning with the past three weeks and continuing to this very moment there are ongoing terrorist operations within the US and along our periphery.

These are Ops we believe are leading up to the use of the aforementioned WMD.

I am currently within a mile of where one such diver was found dead yesterday at a park beach in Dania, Florida. That spot also happens to be the entrance to Port Lauderdale.

It is also the place where all incoming flights to Ft. Lauderdale International Airport make there approach to land with a couple of thousand meters. It is with a hundred meters of where the Association of the US Army is holding its annual symposium. That is why I am here.

Another was found dead in the Hudson River a day ago near a power plant.

A third was spotted by a US Coast Guardsman in Pearl Harbor/Honolulu on Monday and has subsequently not been located.

Three Divers and a Picture Raise Caution Levels

What do this photograph, and three suspicious divers in different parts of the United States have in common, and are the divers connected to terrorism?

Three suspicious divers in different parts of the United States and this photograph are raising a host of questions this morning. Within the past 3 days there have been three separate incidents involving suspicious divers. Two of these divers were found dead, one in the Hudson River in New York State, and one this morning in Hollywood, Florida. A third diver has not been located, but officials from the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force launched a thorough search of the Honolulu, Hawaii harbor in an attempt to locate the diver who was spotted by the Coast Guard. more.....

The above photograph circulated on jihad message boards earlier this winter. It clearly shows a scuba diver, with a smiling Osama Bin Laden.

According to news reports, police are investigating the death of a man found in the Hudson River wearing scuba gear. The body was spotted floating Sunday by the crew of a cargo ship that had delivered coal to Dynergy's Danskammer power plant, the Times Herald-Record of Middletown reported. Newburgh town police were trying to establish the man's identity. Newburgh is 80 miles south of Albany.

In the meantime, Hollywood FL police need help identifying a diver found floating Wednesday off John U. Lloyd State Park in Dania Beach. A park ranger saw the body about 7:05 a.m. and pulled it ashore. The diver was dressed in a wet suit but had no diving tank or weight belt. There were no unattended boats or cars nearby. The current was strong, and police said the man appeared to have been dead for at least several hours, Hollywood police said. An autopsy revealed the man may have died under suspicious circumstances, but police would not elaborate. The man is described as a white male with reddish hair and a mustache. He was 5-foot-10 and weighed about 180 pounds.

The big questions are:
1. Are these three divers connected?
2. Do they have anything to do with Al Qaeda or any other terror group?
3. What were they doing?

This is a threat that the Department of Homeland Security clearly takes seriously. Late last summer, the Department of Homeland Security has issued a bulletin warning that terrorists may attack American ships or ports using scuba divers. The "Swimmer Attack Indicators and Protective Measures" bulletin was issued on August 22, 2003. The bulletin advised "the maritime industry and owners and operators of maritime facilities of a number of incidents of suspicious activity and possible surveillance of maritime facilities around the U.S. over the past few months."

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/

http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/2871983/detail.html

(someone then says- suitcase nukes are boogeymen)

I assure you they are quite real.

When the first one goes off you have have to re-think that last statement.

I do not know of a radiation detector that is effective underwater, or in a channel deep enough for ocean going vessels to navigate up/down river or into a port facility.

Do you???

Hint.. a recent "collision" which has effectively closed the Port of New Orleans to all shipping traffic.

The mysterious oil slick that plagued my hometown and several NJ shore communities a couple of weeks ago.

The pitched naval battle that occured around US oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico at about the same time.

And a mine laying operation in the same area. Oil Rig Service contractors being told by the Houston corporate office to "cease all operations immediately".

This all in addition to reports of foreign submarines ooperating in the Gulf and off the US Atlantic coast.

Hmmmm... mysterious oil slicks????

We have been engaged in a running battles with terrorists for the past two or three weeks and people here are totally clueless about it.
http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com

I have no intelligence information of course.

But it is true that the smallest fissile nuclear weapons made by the USA and USSR would use tritium boosting to gain significant yield from the smallest possible physical device.

Tritium decays over time, with a half life of say 12 years. It cannot be manufactured without a large nuclear reactor and significant technology.

This is the primary reason to say that the nukes "decay".

Upon what do you base this assumption?

Only that the rhetoric for an Imminent attack coming from Jihadis, Al Zawahir et. al. has been at a Fever pitch for quite some time.

I certainly wasn't trying to disparage you. Far from it.

If they have nukes, and if they are here, a person has some choices. Either extract entirely from likely targets or not. Nukes are all or nothing. You cannot sorta live through a nuke. It's a boogeyman.

I'm of the opinion that if they have nukes, why aren't they using them? What creates more fear...1 nuke every 7 days for 10 months or 40 nukes in 10 minutes? If I genuinely wanted to destroy the USA assuming I had nukes, I'd light a nuke ANYWHERE and release a threatening tape proclaiming the next is coming 7 days hence. After the third one, your words will have meaning and you could hold the most powerful country on the planet in check.

Thats why I say they don't have nukes and THAT's why I say it's a boogeyman. You simply cannot fear them having a nuke until you are absolutely, 100% Sheet sure they do. Nothing but absolute proof will do.

Don't get me wrong here Sean, I like reading what you have to say. I certainly wasn't trying to toss a turd onto the table. I was stating what is logical to me and extrapoliting its end. I perhaps should have given a better explanation for my post initially, but this one serves at that.

There may indeed be missing material, divers, all that. No dispute here. Right now however, we aren't sheet sure what it means. We can take a guess, we can take good, educated guesses. Until we find a nuke or one goes off, It's a boogeyman. I grew up doing nuke drills and worrying about the U.S.S.R. nuking us. The fact is, we as a society did our best to thwart it and went on with life like it would never happen. I'm suggesting the same about suitcase nukes.

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posted February 26, 2004 20:05

Sean, forgive me if I missed a previous post, but would you care to elaborate on the oil rig situation you mentioned in your last post. I have been a bit tied up the past few days, so I don't know if I missed something or if this is something under the radar.

Sean Osborne
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posted February 27, 2004 04:13

quote:

Originally posted by Malsua:
Only that the rhetoric for an Imminent attack coming from Jihadis, Al Zawahir et. al. has been at a Fever pitch for quite some time.

Roger, a fever pitch for some time. And I am amplifying your understanding by saying it has very recently gone from a fever pitch to a boil to a rolling boil to actual live-fire combat right here in the United States. We are at war on the soil of our homeland for the first time since 1812.

(The same situation is now facing the UK and Saudi Arabia)

The vast, vast majority of people need to go on with their lives ignorant of this knowledge.

So many, especially here, cry about being lied to by Uncle Sam.

So... some people within the .gov or .mil feel the same way and orchestrate leaks of information.

I believe that had this information I have been reporting here have everything to do with Martians and/or UFO's from these same sources the people here would be signing praises right about now.

BUT... since the info is about terrorists and terrorism and everybodies worst nightmare that directly affects their lives... they simply cannot handle it.

That's my new rationale for keeping my mouth and keyboard silent on Anomalies.Net regarding these specific threats and subjects.

"MOSCOW - President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) said Friday the U.S. war in Iraq (news - web sites) was a mistake that had encouraged terrorist actions there, adding that Russia would help bolster the U.N. role in the country."

Someone get me a figure on how many US troops were killed due to the Iraqi Army, and how many US troops have been killed by roadside bombs and people taking shots at them while hiding.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040225/pl_afp/us_attacks_qaeda_040225151659

"Al-Qaeda threats add grim tone to CIA and FBI fears of terror catastrophe."

"Even catastrophic attacks on the scale of September 11 remain within Al-Qaeda's reach," he said. "Make no mistake: these plots are hatched abroad, but they target US soil and that of our allies."

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Sean Osborne

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Someone get me a figure on how many US troops were killed due to the Iraqi Army, and how many US troops have been killed by roadside bombs and people taking shots at them while hiding.

Nick, Cspace...et al

I did check the PM's and appreciate the email. I will hang around this forum and post what I know to be factual here.

For those who do not see a real threat, or are unaware of recent events in the Gulf of Mexico I submit to you all the best source I know of to verify what I am saying.

Read this new Executive Order and put your minds to work on why it is necessary for such to be in light of things that have been said in this forum. I am not implying anything, but these words speak for themselves. You do the math.

And realize this was published yesterday.

I will bold or use where I think attention warrants, which is a lot.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/02/20040226-11.html

(Here Sean posted the EO regarding Cuba)