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Gun raffle fails to raise eyebrows in US
ABC Online (AU) ^
| 22 February , 2004
| HAMISH ROBERTSON/Lisa Millar
Posted on 02/23/2004 4:09:39 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
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"A UN survey on small arms released over the summer showed that Americans are the most heavily armed civilian population in the world. We have between 86 and 92 guns per 100 people, approaching one gun per person"
It's a beautiful thing, but there's room for improvment. We need to get up to at least one gun and 1,000 rounds per person. Buy more guns and BLOAT! God bless America!
To: TERMINATTOR
and the next most heavily armed country is Yemen, they have 40 weapons per 100 hundred people.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:11:41 PM PST
by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: TERMINATTOR
Oh forcryignoutloud! One of the biggest grins I ever saw on my dad's face was the night he won a shotgun at the county fair raffle.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:12:09 PM PST
by
Samwise
(There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
To: TERMINATTOR
Abortion industry fails to raise eyebrows in US.
For some conservative-biased counterpoint.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:12:58 PM PST
by
coloradan
(Hence, etc.)
To: TERMINATTOR
Gun raffles are great. :)
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:13:58 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
To: coloradan
Yup.
Writing a news story saying that something "fails to raise eyebrows" is almost de facto evidence of bias.
Why the hell should it raise eyebrows?, one wants to ask these "reporters".
To: coloradan; *bang_list
We don't want those towelheads catching up to us, now do we?
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:16:13 PM PST
by
TERMINATTOR
(Sic semper tyrannis! (Thus always to tyrants!) -John Wilkes Booth)
To: TERMINATTOR
Hey, raffles are a good thing. A couple of years ago, by buddy entered a raffle at a local turkey shoot, and won a nice Remington 12-gauge pump. I was so jealous - he always has that kind of luck. LOL :-)
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:16:29 PM PST
by
Viking2002
(I think; therefore, I Freep............)
To: TERMINATTOR
Leah Barrett:
So I think raffling guns in a culture thats already totally saturated with guns, hand guns, assault weapons, rifles, is irresponsible, publicly irresponsible. It's a public health menace and does nothing to alleviate the horrible gun carnage that we have here every year.
MOLON LABE, BABY, MOLON LABE!
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:16:36 PM PST
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: TERMINATTOR
A UN survey on small arms released over the summer showed that Americans are the most heavily armed civilian population in the world. ...and, as a result, a thoroughly crappy place to live, where foreigners fear to visit and its own citizens are fleeing the country in droves...
Oh, no, wait. It doesn't say that. Hm.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:17:33 PM PST
by
prion
To: TERMINATTOR
Where can I buy a raffle ticket?
To: TERMINATTOR
Gun raffles aren't supposed to raise eyebrows, they're supposed to raise money.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:19:20 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: TERMINATTOR
WHO CARES WHAT THE PRIZE IS?!?!?!!?
I've done many raffles like this. My only regret is I haven't won!
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:19:47 PM PST
by
Monty22
To: TERMINATTOR
Could you imagine a "legal" homosexual marriage license for a charity raffle that went along with the gun? LOL.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:20:43 PM PST
by
quantim
(Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
To: NorseWood; Jim Robinson
Hey we should do that here...all proceeds to FreeRepublic of course! We should have each chapter have a raffle and whoever comes up with the most gets bragging rights for the year.
To: Dan from Michigan
Gun raffles ARE great. My husband is from western PA, and his brothers buy raffle tickets for Christmas presents. There are only a few raffles like that around here in Kansas.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:23:06 PM PST
by
CarolAnn
To: TERMINATTOR
It's a public health menace and does nothing to alleviate the horrible gun carnage that we have here every year.Owning only two guns, I admit I haven't really done my part to contribute to the gun carnage in my neck of the woods. With a new .357, I hope to do better.
By the way, I find it interesting that in that very same neck of the woods, where just about everyone has a hunting rifle or some sort of weaponry, the murder rate is practically nil. I wonder how that could be!
To: Dr. Frank fan
yea, it's saying. "wow, you guys aren't outraged?"
It's the classic push poll equivilant in the media.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:31:09 PM PST
by
Bogey78O
(Why are we even having this debate?)
To: TERMINATTOR
A UN survey on small arms released over the summer showed that Americans are the most heavily armed civilian population in the world. We have between 86 and 92 guns per 100 people, approaching one gun per person Interestingly, Ms. Barrett needs to re-study her talking points, if this is the report she's referring to. The real numbers are "83 to 96", according to the chapter entitled "Fewer Blanks". Yemen has "33 to 50" and Finland has "39" per 100.
Surprisingly, reading from this report, it seems to be more sober and careful than the typical "more guns = bad" fearmongering you get from the likes of Mrs. Barrett. Here's an excerpt:
While it is tempting to contract peace-loving Europe against gun-wielding America, careful analysis shows that this is not confirmed by facts. Contrary to assumptions that Europeans are virtually disarmed, the 15 countries of the European Union alone have an estimated 84 million firearms.
Here's another:
The chapter [shows]...how misleading it can be to assume that the greatest dangers come exclusively from the most numerous and advanced small arms.
Ms. Barrett should more carefully read her own propaganda sources. They do not support what she is saying.
To: TERMINATTOR
If the U.S. is "saturated" with guns, then one more gun, given away via a raffle isn't going to make much of a difference.
It's where guns are rare that it would standout.
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posted on
02/23/2004 4:38:56 PM PST
by
Celtjew Libertarian
(Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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