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Atheist Loses Bid to Ban Inaugural Prayer
abc ^ | 2/23/04

Posted on 02/23/2004 1:59:20 PM PST by knak

SAN FRANCISCO Feb. 23 — The atheist who persuaded a federal appeals court to strike down the Pledge of Allegiance because of the words "under God" lost a bid Monday to abolish prayer at presidential inaugurations. A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Michael Newdow did not suffer "a sufficiently concrete and specific injury" to pursue his latest claim.

Newdow is both an emergency room physician and a lawyer and has represented himself in the two legal actions.

Newdow argued that the Rev. Franklin Graham's prayer at President Bush's 2001 inauguration was an unconstitutional endorsement of religion. He said the practice of clergy-led prayer at presidential inaugurations did not begin until Franklin D. Roosevelt's second inauguration in 1937.

In 2002, a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit agreed with Newdow that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional when recited in public schools. The Supreme Court will hear the case next month.

Newdow challenged the pledge on behalf of his daughter, now 9, claiming she was wrongly being exposed to religion in public school.

The Sacramento man said he was unsure whether he would ask the high court to hear his challenge of inaugural prayer.

"I got other things on my mind at the moment," he said, referring to the pledge case, which Newdow himself will argue.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: athiests; lawsuit; newdow; voluntaryprayer
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
Newdow plop.
41 posted on 02/23/2004 3:03:29 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: knak
Well there you go!..
The Senate and Congress start each session reminding themselves of to WHOM the ultimate authority of the bill of rights( by PRAYER) belongs to.. at least for fifteen minutes or so..

THIS idiot wants to piss the ultimate authority off.. will the master at arms.. shoot this pretender to insurrection.. PLEASE.. We have enough problems here.. can I get a second ?.

42 posted on 02/23/2004 3:05:21 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: knak
The 9th Circuit, with jurisdiction over the western US, would not even be able to order a halt to all future inaugural prayers, given they occur in Washington, DC.
43 posted on 02/23/2004 3:10:43 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: Howlin
I sure don't wanna be standing anywhere near this Newdow person when its time for him to explain his earthly "mission" to his Maker. I have a feeling it won't be pretty.
44 posted on 02/23/2004 3:15:07 PM PST by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Howlin
This is a good news bump!

Finally, the world has not been altered to satisfy one man's obession.
45 posted on 02/23/2004 3:18:24 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: knak
If newdow doesn't like the prayer at the Presidential Inauguration he should stay home or don't watch it on TV...I would think he would do that very same thing anyway cause why would you attend or watch it on TV if your candidate did not win. Don't know who newdow's candidate is but it sure isn't GWB and GWB is going to win. Big time!
Besides newdow, WE happen to like the prayer. So, who are YOU to demand it is not said. You dont'' like it so dont' watch. We like it and will watch. It's called CHOICE isn't that what the dem/lib/fems always scream about? Turn off the tv or radio if ya dont' like it. Go out in the world newdow and do something constructive for a change.
46 posted on 02/23/2004 3:28:52 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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To: Darlin'
His demeanor is of a very hostile man.
47 posted on 02/23/2004 3:30:44 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: barkingdog
They are AFRAID! I like to call them religion o'phobes. The gay community brands people Homophobes or accuses them of homophobia. So, if you dont' agree with prayer or religion ya must be a religionophobia!!! Or perhaps a Faithophobia or a "prayerophobia" which means you are afraid of religion. Makes sense, huh? Everything has a title or brand name these days so why not religion?
48 posted on 02/23/2004 3:36:48 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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To: MEG33
One of these days, God will have had enough, and decide to ban athiests.
49 posted on 02/23/2004 3:39:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: knak
Too bad Eric Rudolf was captured!

Michael Newdow would probably piss him off!

50 posted on 02/23/2004 3:42:56 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: EternalVigilance
One of these days, God will have had enough, and decide to ban athiests.

A heavenly ZOT?

51 posted on 02/23/2004 3:44:08 PM PST by Aeronaut (Peace: in international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting.)
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To: barkingdog
If they don't believe in God, And if they think of us who do, as "believers of mythical tales", why don't they just laugh at us.

Because they are very angry people who want believers to stop believing. And recall that the Bible says that even atheists, in their heart, know there is a God.

52 posted on 02/23/2004 3:50:38 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Howlin
yes...very good news
Thank you
53 posted on 02/23/2004 3:51:34 PM PST by firewalk
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To: knak
Atheism is a religion. Newdow just wants his represented over anyone else's.
54 posted on 02/23/2004 3:52:36 PM PST by atomicpossum
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Newdow is both an emergency room physician and a lawyer = nut

Priceless....the ambulances come to him.

55 posted on 02/23/2004 3:54:44 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Ignatius J Reilly; All
why do you believe in separation of church and state? And upon what do you base your belief?

CGVet58
56 posted on 02/23/2004 4:26:48 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
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To: CGVet58
bump
57 posted on 02/23/2004 4:29:26 PM PST by No Blue States (support statehood for libs)
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To: knak
Let's see--Judges said that it is unconst. to say the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. So, if I'm in a PS and I say out loud the P of L, what law did I personally break.

Why does Freedom of Speech, other than a mm from your ear or mine, end anywhere? If I pray in a school, no one can stop me--says so in the same Constitution used above.

58 posted on 02/23/2004 4:36:48 PM PST by GOPologist
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To: mass55th
Instead of this guy being told to see Gibson's "Christ," he should be told to take Christ's place on the Cross.
59 posted on 02/23/2004 4:47:06 PM PST by GOPologist
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To: All
Many years ago, when I was getting shot at during World War II, I remember a saying that always stayed with me: "There are no atheists in foxholes!"

Those who profess to be atheists are liars. When they are under major stress, watch them run to God for help.

60 posted on 02/23/2004 4:54:03 PM PST by GOPologist
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