[elfman2]

"Objectivism is flawed because the conscious, rational observer is not a seperate phenomenon from the observed. There are no subjects and objects only events."

I think what you are describing is so infinitesimally small, excluding that which can be predicted and accounted for, that it’s meaningless relative to our lives. Kind of like the issue with quantum mechanics, observing an electron’s position at a specific time effects its position. So how’s that effect me?

Also, the same could be said for any non-subjective philosophy or revealed religion. How can we believe the words on paper if we effect their meaning by reading them. If that’s what you’re referring to, it’s too small to worry about.

[ffusco]

I agree with you completely. For example a flat world view is incorrect but would still permit me to give you directions to my corner store.

[ffusco]

I thought about this some more.
"How can we believe the words on paper if we effect their meaning by reading them."

The meaning of the words don't change, the meaning of the words might mean something different to the same observer at different times. I realize that these things are subjective,like whether I think something has value, but our subjectivity tends to filter what we think we are observing objectively.

For instance , suppose I read a book by a famous novelist and I tell you it was a great book. A year later I re-read it and find it to be just good.

Also considerthe color red: All normally sighted people now waht the color red is. How would you describe the color red? Just another observable,predictable phenomenon.