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Electoral College Breakdown, Installment Eleven (The Battlegrounds)
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Posted on 02/23/2004 3:38:08 AM PST by Dales
Edited on 02/23/2004 5:31:38 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
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Since I began the rundown of the states, California had a new poll released.
|
California |
Electoral Votes: 55 |
2000 Result |
Gore 53% |
Bush 42% |
Polling Data:
Date |
Polling Company |
Link |
Type |
MOE |
Republican |
Democrat |
8/16/03 |
Field |
NA |
RV |
4% |
Bush |
42% |
Unnamed Democrat |
47% |
8/16/03 |
Public Policy Institute |
NA |
LV |
3% |
Bush |
40% |
Unnamed Democrat |
45% |
1/3/04 |
Public Policy Institute |
Link |
LV |
3% |
Bush |
45% |
Unnamed Democrat |
45% |
1/13/04 |
Field |
NA |
RV |
3.4% |
Bush |
46% |
Unnamed Democrat |
47% |
1/18/04 |
Rasmussen |
NA |
LV |
4% |
Bush |
41% |
Unnamed Democrat |
46% |
2/13/04 |
Knowledge Networks |
Link |
RV |
4.1% |
Bush |
38% |
Kerry |
42% |
2/16/04 |
Public Policy Institute |
Link |
1,103 LV |
3% |
Bush |
37% |
Kerry |
54% |
Punditry: With this poll, I am downgrading California to Strong for the Democrats.
Summary Table |
|
|
Bush |
|
Democrat |
|
Safe |
Strong |
Lean |
Slight |
Tossup |
Slight |
Lean |
Strong |
Safe |
|
ND (3) |
CO (9) |
GA (15) |
NV (5) |
OR (7) |
NM (5) |
WI (10) |
NY (31) |
VT (3) |
|
AL (9) |
SC (8) |
NC (15) |
FL (27) |
WV (5) |
ME (4) |
- |
DE (3) |
MA (12) |
|
MT (3) |
KY (8) |
MO (11) |
NJ (15) |
- |
MI (17) |
- |
MD (10) |
DC (3) |
|
WY (3) |
KS (6) |
VA (13) |
NH (4) |
- |
PA (21) |
- |
WA (11) |
RI (4) |
|
UT (5) |
MS (6) |
OH (20) |
- |
- |
IA (7) |
- |
CT (7) |
HI (4) |
|
ID (4) |
SD (3) |
IN (11) |
- |
- |
MN (10) |
- |
IL (21) |
- |
|
AK (3) |
LA (9) |
AZ (10) |
- |
- |
- |
- |
CA (55) |
- |
|
NE (5) |
- |
AR (6) |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
|
OK (7) |
- |
TN (11) |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
|
TX (34) |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
Designation Total: |
76 |
49 |
112 |
51 |
12 |
64 |
10 |
138 |
26 |
Candidate Total: |
237 |
127 |
174 |
Please, no comments on the colors regarding who is red and who is blue. The map was made for me by SC Swamp Fox using a tool online, and they chose the colors for him. I'll eventually be doing my own map. Also, please note that although I call some states as having a slight advantage one way or another, it would be a mistake to count them for either candidate. They are well within the margin of error, and should be considered anyone's game.
The battleground states will be those which make up the toss-ups and those with a slight advantage for either side. Over time as new polls come out, different states may move into or out of the battleground. The movement of states into, and out of, the battleground will be an important metric to trace, as it will indicate which side is successfully bringing the fight to the other at that point. If, for example, Ohio and Missouri become battleground states, then that is a sign that Kerry has been making progress while Bush has been regressing.
As of this moment, with the Democrat nomination almost sealed up, the general lay of the land favors the President, with 234 of the required 270 electoral votes leaning his way (or more). Kerry is going to have to continue to ride the wave of favorable coverage he is getting for longer to pull into an equitable position.
It is clear that at this point, President Bush has a much better standing as the incumbent than Gore had as the pseudo-incumbent in 2000. At this point in 2000, Gore was significantly behind in the national polls, while most polls have Bush and Kerry within the margin of error with each other nationwide. At the time of my first ECB (Electoral College Breakdown) in 2000, Gore had about 40 more electoral votes in his columns than Kerry has now. On the other hand, Bush is running about 9 electoral votes behind where he was. That first ECB was done about 6 weeks later, so it would only make sense that more electoral votes would be leaning one way or another by then.
Last year, the initial states designated as battleground states were Florida, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Iowa, Maine, Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, West Virginia, and Washington. Florida, West Virginia, Iowa, New Hampshire, Maine repeat as initial battleground states this year. Arkansas, Georgia, and North Carolina have all moved towards Bush as leaners as the south has solidified. Wisconsin (lean) and Washington (strong) have moved towards the Democrats. New battleground states initially are Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Michigan, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania.
Florida
In the first ECB of 2000, Florida was listed as a battleground with a slight advantage to Gore. This time around, it is starting with a slight advantage for Bush. Florida has 6 Democrat Representatives and 18 Republicans. Both chambers of the state legislature are controlled by the Republicans. Republicans control most of the executive branch. However, both Senate seats are held by Democrats. As of Dec. 1, 2003, the state registration was 41.9% Democrat and 38.6% Republican. Dales' Prediction: Florida will remain close, but not as close as 2000, and will remain in the Bush column.West Virginia
In the first ECB of 2000, West Virginia was rated as a battleground state with a slight advantage to Bush. This time around, it is starting as a complete tossup. Two of West Virginia's three Representatives are Democrats. Democrats control everything else: both Senate seats, both chambers of the state legislature, and the top executive branch offices. It is easy to see why, when 60% of the registered voters are Democrats and just 29% Republican. Dales' Prediction: Bush holds West VirginiaIowa
Iowa rated a slight advantage to Bush in the first ECB of 2000. This time, it rates a slight advantage to the Democrats. Other positions in Iowa are mixed. The Republicans hold 4 of the 5 House seats, and the Senate seats are split. The Republicans control both chambers of the state legislature, but the Democrats hold all major executive offices except for Auditor. Republicans hold a 32% to 29% advantage in registration. Dales' Prediction: While I've been told that Iowans love incumbents, they do not like war. I see the Democrats holding Iowa.New Hampshire
Both last time and this time, New Hampshire started as a slight advantage for Bush. When looking at the other offices, it is hard to understand just why this is not more firmly in his control. The Republicans hold all the House seats, both Senate seats, control both chambers of the state legislature, and hold all major executive branch offices, while having a 37%-26% registration advantage. The consensus on these threads that I have seen is that Bush will have difficulty securing New Hampshire. I don't buy it for a second. Bush wins..Maine
Maine is currently a slight advantage for Democrats, which is a change from ECB 2000 where it started as a slight Bush advantage. While the Republicans hold both Senate seats, everything else is in the hands of the Democrats, who enjoy a 31%-29% registration lead. Dales' Prediction: Bush plucks off one of the electoral votes here and the Democrats hold the rest.Nevada
Nevada was leaning Bush in the first 2000 ECB, and this year rates a slight advantage for Bush. Legislatively, the state is split. Two of the three Representatives are Republicans. The two Senate seats are split. The Democrats control the state Assembly while the Republicans control the state Senate. The Republicans hold most executive branch offices. The registration race is close, with Republicans holding a one point advantage (41%-40%). Dales' Prediction: Nevada will hold.New Jersey
If New Jersey remains tight enough to stay in the battleground, it is a case of back to the future. ECB2000 started with it leaning Gore's way. The Democrats have 7 of 13 Representatives and both Senate seats, control both chambers of the state legislature, hold all of the important executive offices, and have a 25%-19% advantage in voter registration. Dales' Prediction: It would take a perfect storm for New Jersey to go for Bush. There will not be one.Oregon
In early 2000, Oregon was polling strongly for Bush. The left coast influence eventually took hold and turned it into a very even state, and it starts this year as a tossup. Democrats hold 4 out of 5 Representative seats, while the Senate seats are divided, just as control of the state legislative chambers is split. The Democrats hold most of the executive branch positions. Democrats hold a 3% lead in registration, 39%-36%. Dales' Prediction: as another state with an antiwar bias, the Democrats will win here.Michigan
Michigan has gone from leaning Bush to having a slight advantage for the Democrats. Republicans have 9 of 15 Representatives, Democrats hold both Senate seats, while Republicans hold both houses of the state legislature. The state executive is split; Democrats hold the Governor and Lt. Governor positions while Republicans have the Secretary of State and Attorney General slots. Dales' Prediction: I would love to see Bush carry Michigan, but I do not see it happening.Minnesota
The slight advantage for the Democrats is a step up from the leaning Gore position at the start of ECB 2000. Minnesota's legislative seats are split right down the middle. Half of the Representatives, half of the Senate seats, and one of the state legislative chambers are held by each party. Most of the important executive branch offices are held by Republicans with the exception of Attorney General. Dales' Prediction: Minnesota is changing rapidly, and Bush will capture the state.Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania started as leaning Bush last time, but has drifted to where it has a slight advantage for the Democrats. Republicans hold a 12-7 advantage in the numbers of Representatives, and hold both Senate seats. They also hold both chambers of the state legislature. The Democrats hold the major executive branch positions except for Attorney General, and have a significant registration advantage (48%-42%). Dales' Prediction: I fear the Rendell machine. I think the Democrats hold PennsylvaniaAdd up all of the predictions and factor them into the already designated states, and my early prediction is for Bush to be re-elected with 289 electoral votes.
The battleground states last election were mainly in the south. Bush won them, and as such won the election. This time, the battleground states are predominantly in the midwest and the east coast. Kerry will need to control these states and make some advances into others in order to win. He may look to Florida, but Bob Graham's pitiful run at the Democrat nomination may have destroyed his chance of being on the ticket. Besides, his appeal would not extend to other battleground states in any meaningful manner. It is unlikely that Kerry will look to New England for a running mate either; look for his selection to come from the midwest. The most natural fit for him would be Evan Bayh of Indiana. He could make Indiana, a state Kerry will otherwise have little chance in, competitive, would probably move Ohio into play, and would have appeal to most of the other battleground states. His position on abortion issues might even allow Kerry to appear more moderate than he is. On the downside, it is not clear that the NOW gang would permit Bayh to be on the ticket, and a ticket with two sitting Senators on it would have an awful long vote trail on which to prey. Another option for Kerry would be Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack. And should Kerry make peace with the Clintons, then we could very well see Ed Rendell. Rendell would play well in much of the rust belt, and his executive branch experience would work well as a balance to the Senatorial Kerry (who's executive experience was long ago, and under Mike Dukakis- hardly a selling point).
Given the current battleground, it is likely that Kerry will continue the populist, class warfare rhetoric adopted by Gore in 2000; it fits this battleground much more than it fit the 2000 one.
As for what Bush can do to firm up this region, the best he can do is to hope the economy gives him another selling point. A legitimate plan to counter outsourcing issues would be a big step in the right direction, especially in defusing the statement an aide made that outsourcing is good for the economy in the long term. Portions of this battleground have histories of being relatively antiwar, and as such the more Iraq calms down and the longer that goes between American casualties, the more likely it will be that the Bush message will resonate in the New England states, in Minnesota, in Nevada, and in Oregon. Despite the wishes of the Bush campaign for this election to be fought on national security, the battleground looks to be a referrendum on the economy and on Iraq.
Historical election data are located at Dave Leip's invaluable website.
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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: Maine; US: Michigan; US: Minnesota; US: Nevada; US: New Hampshire; US: New Jersey; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
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To: Dales
Michigan and Pennsylvannia in the Dem column makes it tough to reach the threshold. Possible, obviously. But I'd be a lot more comfortable if either or both of those looked like they might be won.
81
posted on
02/23/2004 8:12:49 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: Dales
Since 9/11 we have had two measures (elections) in NJ. The Gov's race was unfortunately never really competitive, but in the 2002 Senate race Forrester would have indeed beaten the incumbent Torricelli. I can't remember how many times I argued the numbers, and folks wouldn't believe me because of NJ's recent Presidential history. Granted, it was Torricelli's weakness and not Forrester's strength, but do note the Dems had to bring in a retired incumbent (illegally) to keep the seat. So maybe 2002 and its aftermath demonstrated a rightward shift. I dunno. But if so, NJ's got a good ways to shift. :-)
82
posted on
02/23/2004 8:15:00 AM PST
by
Coop
("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
To: All
Tactics trump policy every single time. Who wins is who has people go to the polls and vote for him.
G O T V. If Nevada is vulnerable, then rent all the rental vans in Vegas and Reno and use them only to carry our people. Hit the phone banks. Make sure elderly veterans who are members of the VFW and American Legion have a way to the polls.
G O T V trumps policy every single time.
83
posted on
02/23/2004 8:22:29 AM PST
by
Owen
To: Neets
Could you add me to the ping list. This is fantastic work.
Thanks.
84
posted on
02/23/2004 8:32:52 AM PST
by
CougarGA7
(If termites could talk, they would call what they are doing to your house "Progress".)
To: CougarGA7
Got ya on the list!
85
posted on
02/23/2004 8:35:00 AM PST
by
Neets
To: Owen
If Nevada is vulnerable, then rent all the rental vans in Vegas and Reno It might be too early for that; with enough lead time, supply can catch up to demand. They HAVE reserved enough vans for Republican use already, though. As for GOTV, BushCheney ain't raising big bucks for nuthin'.
86
posted on
02/23/2004 9:01:10 AM PST
by
JohnnyZ
(People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
To: Coop; AntiGuv
[Coop writes] I agree, the two reports are curious. But I find the lack of objective comparisons of the two reports much more telling. I tend to think ground truth is closer to the lower number (household) than the higher (payrolls). Why? ..[snip]... As you say, the loud silence in the mainstream media regarding the household survey is important, and in the direction of the same old bias. Aside from that, the discrepancy is both interesting and important. One does indeed read various reasons to prefer the household survey. I wish and hope that it reflects the economy more accurately than the payroll report. However, I am not all that hopeful as Greenspan said something to the effect of all in all he thought the payroll report more reliable. While Greenspan is obviously not the only professional whose opinion is worth listening to, he does sit at the top of a web and has shown reasonable judgment before.
To: JohnnyZ
>
It might be too early for that; with enough lead time, supply can catch up to demand. They HAVE reserved enough vans for Republican use already, though. As for GOTV, BushCheney ain't raising big bucks for nuthin'.
>
Yes, it might be too early and supply could catch up. So we wait and then rent them all a few days ahead of when they are reserved by the Dems and then just turn them back in late.
All that money MUST NOT be spent on campaign manager salary. That's not why we're sending in money. We want it spent on GOTV. We want votes, not staff.
88
posted on
02/23/2004 9:19:07 AM PST
by
Owen
To: Neets
Can you please add me to the ping list? Many thanks!
To: benjaminthomas
Sure thing.
90
posted on
02/23/2004 9:32:09 AM PST
by
Neets
To: Dales
Excellent work. I think you modeled a plausible scenario. I think Bush has slightly more pad than you give him, but not much. I see Bush getting about 325 and giving the GOP about +5 in the House and +2 or +3 in The Senate.
91
posted on
02/23/2004 10:02:48 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(At the end of the day, information has finite value and may only come at a significant price.)
To: Neets; Dales
Thank you, and you too Dales. :)
92
posted on
02/23/2004 10:30:28 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: Dales
I agree with every one of your predictions, especially NH and ME-02.
To: Dales
New Jersey may surprise some people. I am 30 miles from NYC. People here still remember 9/11 vividly and there are many who lost someone or who know somebody who did. I am heartened that at least a few dems I know say they will vote for Bush because he is actively fighting terror and they want to stay the course.
94
posted on
02/23/2004 11:45:38 AM PST
by
XRdsRev
To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
QUICK what was the unemployment rate in 1984? In 1996?
Today it is 5.6% and falling.
IMHO the media is playing up 'no jobs' but the jobs situation is not really that dire. the economy is stonger than the media will acknolwedge. Hopefully the strength of the economy will become so obvious even the media wont be able to shrug it off.
95
posted on
02/23/2004 11:45:42 AM PST
by
WOSG
(If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
Comment #96 Removed by Moderator
To: Coop
Another New Jersey angle ... prescription DRUG benefit.
The DRUG companies have major HQs in NJ. Giving the drug benefit is like giving a boon to the main state economy.
I bet he hammers on that issue in New Jersey. just a thought.
97
posted on
02/23/2004 11:48:32 AM PST
by
WOSG
(If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
To: Coop
It is almost certainly the case that the household survey is the more accurate one during economic turnarounds like we have now.
98
posted on
02/23/2004 11:52:14 AM PST
by
WOSG
(If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
To: WOSG
Interesting angle. Thanks
99
posted on
02/23/2004 12:06:48 PM PST
by
Coop
("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry.)
To: erasmiapulchella
FWIW, I have both Wisconsin and Minnesota in the slight GOP column for now, but that's mostly just gut feeling. We shall see!
100
posted on
02/23/2004 3:01:21 PM PST
by
AntiGuv
(When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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