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Electoral College Breakdown, Installment Ten
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Posted on 02/22/2004 5:24:26 PM PST by Dales

Edited on 02/23/2004 3:48:05 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Due to popular demand, I am going to revive my poll tracking and analysis that I did during the 2000 election season. I will be starting things a bit differently this year. Instead of starting off with a comprehensive overview of the entire nation, I am going to start by looking at five states at a time. For this tenth installment, the remaining states: Tennessee, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and the great state of Texas.


Tennessee
Electoral Votes: 11
2000 Result
Bush 51%
Gore 47%

Background: Carter against Ford, Clinton twice (both times needing help from Perot), and Johnson. Republicans generally have had success here since Truman.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
12/8/03 Mason-Dixon Link LV 4% Bush 52% Unnamed Democrat 37%
1/29/04 Mason-Dixon NA LV 5% Bush 47% Kerry 43%

Punditry: Kerry has enjoyed a nice bounce here, but the state still Leans for Bush.


New Hampshire
Electoral Votes: 4
2000 Result
Bush 48%
Gore 47%

Background: Clinton won twice here, and the second time would have been even without Perot. The first time, he likely would have lost. Johnson won here. Other than that, Republican wins back through Dewey beating Truman. The elder Bush crushed the man who Kerry was Lt. Governor for, Mike Dukakis.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
4/27/03 Franklin Pierce College Link 600 RV 4% Bush 42% Unnamed Democrat 42%
9/11/03 American Research Group Link RV 4% Bush 50% Unnamed Democrat 36%
10/16/03 Research 2000 Link RV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 39%
12/10/03 American Research Group NA RV 4% Bush 50% Unnamed Democrat 38%
10/16/03 Research 2000 Link RV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 39%
1/20/04 Associated Press Link 600 LV 4% Bush 55% Kerry 40%
2/20/04 University of New Hampshire Link 511 LV 4% Bush 38% Kerry 53%

Punditry: That last poll sure is different than the results all of the other polls done in the state have been showing. As such, I am treating it with extreme skepticism, especially since the American Research Group is really the poll to watch for NH (they are based there). Just to be cautious, I will designate New Hampshire a Slight Advantage for Bush, but if the next ARG poll shows the lead holding I will likely upgrade this rating.


Wisconsin
Electoral Votes: 10
2000 Result
Gore 47.83%
Bush 47.61%

Background: I got the *BLEEP* kicked out of me in Wisconsin. Oh wait, sorry. Stripes flashback. Reagan won here twice. Nixon won here three times. LBJ and Carter (against Ford) won here, and then the Democrats have taken the last four elections here. The first of Clinton's wins would have been a loss for him without Perot.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
5/03 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 53% Unnamed Democrat 42%
10/28/03 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 45%
1/27/04 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 38% Unnamed Democrat 54%

Punditry: Quite a reversal in Bush's fortunes according to the polls here, especially considering it is the same polling company. Wisconsin is one of the states that is often considered a possible pickup for Bush this time, and his previous numbers show it is possible, but it will take quite a change from where things are right now, which is that the state Leans for the Democrats.


Oklahoma
Electoral Votes: 7
2000 Result
Bush 60%
Gore 38%

Background: Republicans have won every election here since LBJ.

Polling Data: None available.

Punditry: Sooner country has put away their Texas animous for Presidential candidates, and this remains Safe for Bush.


Texas
Electoral Votes: 34
2000 Result
Bush 58%
Gore 39%

Background: Carter and Humphrey won here, but Texas has become a very foreign land for the Democrat Presidential candidates.

Polling Data: None available.

Punditry: Texas is Safe for Bush. It is Bush country.


Summary Table
  Bush Democrat
  Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
  ND (3) CO (9) GA (15) NV (5) OR (7) NM (5) CA (55) NY (31) VT (3)
  AL (9) SC (8) NC (15) FL (27) WV (5) ME (4) WI (10) DE (3) MA (12)
  MT (3) KY (8) MO (11) NJ (15) - MI (17) - MD (10) DC (3)
  WY (3) KS (6) VA (13) NH (4) - PA (21) - WA (11) RI (4)
  UT (5) MS (6) OH (20) - - IA (7) - CT (7) HI (4)
  ID (4) SD (3) IN (11) - - MN (10) - IL (21) -
  AK (3) LA (9) AZ (10) - - - - - -
  NE (5) - AR (6) - - - - - -
  OK (7) - TN (11) - - - - - -
  TX (34) - - - - - - - -
Designation
Total:
76 49 112 51 12 64 65 83 26
Candidate
Total:
237 127 174


Next installment: A closer look at the battleground states, and updates to a few states that have new polls.

Historical election data are located at Dave Leip's invaluable website.

Installment One
Installment Two
Installment Three
Installment Four
Installment Five
Installment Six
Installment Seven
Installment Eight
Installment Nine


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: Oklahoma; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: dales; ecb; electionpresident; electoralcollege; gwb2004
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To: KQQL; Torie
I think you guys are missing the boat on NH. The most important issue in NH is income taxes, they hate them. Yeah, it's next door to Kerry's stomping ground but what you guys don't realize is the ingrained animus between NH folk and MAss folk. Its actually pretty amusing and while their has been an influx of Mass reidents to NH, the reason for that influx is, you guessed it, taxes.
81 posted on 02/22/2004 8:24:35 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: KQQL
"N: slight leans Kerry, No way W wins....... "

I think that's a typo.
"N" ... could you re-post that line?
82 posted on 02/22/2004 8:24:35 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: edwin hubble
Yes, but Bush would need FL, WV, MO and OH to reach the tie. The only "GOP leaning" state to Kerry was NH, the rest are "toss ups".

This could be close...

or we could have OBL's head on a pike and/or the economy charging ahead and Bush wins in a land-slide.

It's only February and the GOP hasn't even started to spend money. This should be okay.

83 posted on 02/22/2004 8:24:41 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: jack gillis
Bush has better chance to win NV in 04, then NH
277-4
84 posted on 02/22/2004 8:24:51 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: jwalsh07
Regarding Ohio, we will have to see how the economy plays out, and the class angst issue plays out. Ohio is the premier state for manufacturing. The place makes tangible things, not intangible things. McKinley might not recognize California, but he would certainly recognize his home state, to this day.
85 posted on 02/22/2004 8:27:11 PM PST by Torie
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To: KQQL
I agree. Nevada will be a couple of more percent GOP than the nation. NH will not.
86 posted on 02/22/2004 8:27:49 PM PST by Torie
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To: jack gillis
I don't really believe in national trends, as I come from the 'politics is local' school.

I do think there was a lot of ticket splitting, and that the dems had strong candidates.

Stabenow ran once for governor(lost in primary), beat an incumbent for congress(my district before redistricting was about 51-49 dem), and is a strong campaigner. Mike Rogers(my rep now) is also a strong candidate and pulled off the win for the open seat in 2000. Redistricting was kind to him and his district is now about 52-53% republican.

Ben Nelson was elected statewide in Florida. Tom Carper was a governor(best type of candidate you can have). Carnahan was a governor, and Maria Cantwell has a ton of money.

87 posted on 02/22/2004 8:28:14 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: Torie
Thats good, my gut tells me that Iowa is trending toward Michigan. Any hope there? Hell, the last time I was in Dubuque was 30 years ago and the mills and factories were all closing then. But corn was booming. Don't they make ethanol from corn? LOL
88 posted on 02/22/2004 8:28:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
I think the inarticute Texan bit is a drag in NH for Bush. Kerry needs to tone it down a bit however, to connect in NH. Of course he will, soon.
89 posted on 02/22/2004 8:29:43 PM PST by Torie
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To: SC Swamp Fox
I bet you today BUSH has easier time winning FL in 04 than he did in 04.
THERE IS NO LOSERMAN TO ATTRACT JEWISH AMERICAN VOTES, THIS TIME AROUND ....for Kerry...
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FL Economy is doing good.....
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If I were Kerry, I fight W in OH, NH , WV , MO and NV not FL, while keeping Sore's states from 00
90 posted on 02/22/2004 8:30:00 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: jwalsh07
I agree. I think the dam could burst in Bush's favor, but not in Kerry's. I also think MN will be in the Bush column this time. MN & GA have been trending R, while AR & LA have been trending Rat.
91 posted on 02/22/2004 8:31:11 PM PST by wylenetheconservative (Max Cleland has exploited his sympathy for long enough)
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To: Torie
Kerry has Al Gore disease. He won't be able to hide the New England hubris. It doesn't even play well in New England. I'd imagine it woulld play less well in the battleground states.

But thats just MHO and you know as well as I that I my animus toward Mr Kerry is deep and long running. Hard to be objective actually. It was easier with Gore and Clinton.

92 posted on 02/22/2004 8:32:12 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: edwin hubble
NM: slight leans Kerry, No way W wins.......
DEMOGraphics are screwed up in NM...


sorry for the typo.

93 posted on 02/22/2004 8:32:49 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: jwalsh07
Predicting Iowa at this point is the province of only a higher power. Frankly, while the place is so disgusting "normal," in so many ways, psephologically speaking, Iowa is just plain weird, and sui generis. But I think Bush's hawkish stance, probably makes him an underdog.
94 posted on 02/22/2004 8:33:15 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
W has a good shot @ winning MN...

However, I doubt W wins WI or MI
95 posted on 02/22/2004 8:35:29 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
Demographics have been screwed up in NM for a long time. Poor demographics aren't always a harbinger of defeat for GOP. MS is 37% black and reliably GOP in Pres elections. The bad demographics tend to polarize the white majority against the RATS. Even in California, if it weren't for all the homosexuals and counterculture whites in the Bay area, the state would be very competitive. Don't count NM out yet.
96 posted on 02/22/2004 8:36:54 PM PST by wylenetheconservative (Max Cleland has exploited his sympathy for long enough)
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To: jack gillis
What's scary is, that's an INCREDIBLY FEASIBLE outcome

As my map is now(286 W, 252 Kerry) if I'm right on every state except Michigan, we have a tie.

Of the 'battleground states'(where I expect a good fight) - I have Oregon, Wash St, Nevada(somewhat of an upset), Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, West Va, Maine(both districts), and New Hampshire going dem.

And New Mex, Arizona, Colorado, Arkansas, Missouri, Louisiana, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia(sleeper), Ohio, and Michigan(my other upset) going GOP.

If it's Edwards, I expect it even tougher.

97 posted on 02/22/2004 8:38:38 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: wylenetheconservative
In MS most whites vote Republican in a Federal Elections, however in NM that's not the case.
98 posted on 02/22/2004 8:39:06 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
I agree with #77, Ohio just passed the toughest DOMA law in the nation. Hard to believe that doesn't tip a couple of points W's way.
99 posted on 02/22/2004 8:40:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Torie
IA is another great example of how the demographics game can be misleading. A state that is 94% white would seem to be a shoe-in for Bush. But anytime a place lacks a set of minorities for the RATS to pander to, the majority is not polarized against the RAtS, and it becomes more difficult for the GOP.
100 posted on 02/22/2004 8:41:24 PM PST by wylenetheconservative (Max Cleland has exploited his sympathy for long enough)
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