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To: jwalburg
I don't think he was referring to the US as "the biggest nothing in history." I interpreted it as referring to the War in Vietnam and the cause they were fighting for. Remember, he was speaking before the Congress, so it's not likely that even a twerp like Kerry would insult his immediate audience by slurring their country.
24 posted on 02/21/2004 2:25:29 PM PST by giotto
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To: giotto


You are hopelessly naive








72 posted on 02/21/2004 10:34:14 PM PST by autoresponder (JAMES BOND: http://00access.tripod.com/007.html J-FK: http://00access.tripod.com/Kerry.html)
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To: giotto
Remember, he was speaking before the Congress, so it's not likely that even a twerp like Kerry would insult his immediate audience by slurring their country.

I think he may have insulted Congress & The United States in the following exchange during that Senate hearing.

The Chairman: You mentioned some new faces in the Congress. After all, all these people get here because of the support back home, as you know. They are simply representative of their constituents. You do accept that, I believe.

Mr. Kerry: Partially. Not totally.

The Chairman: Why not?

Mr. Kerry: As someone who ran for office for 3 1/2 weeks, I am aware of many of the problems involved, and in many places, you can take certain districts in New York City, the structure is such that people can't really run and represent necessarily the people. People often don't care. The apathy is so great that they believe they are being represented when in fact they are not. I think that you and I could run through a list of people in this body itself and find many who are there through the powers of the office itself as opposed to the fact they are truly representing the people. It is very easy to give the illusion of representing the people through the frank privileges which allow you to send back what you are doing here in Congress. Congressmen insert so often.

You know, they gave a speech for the Polish and they gave a speech for the Irish and they gave a speech for this, and actually handed the paper in to the clerk and the clerk submits it for the record and a copy of the record goes home and people say, Hey, he really is doing something for me." But he isn't.

The Chairman: Well-

Mr. Kerry: Senator, we also know prior to this past year the House used to meet in the Committee of the Whole and the Committee of the Whole would make the votes, and votes not of record and people would file through, and important legislation was decided then, and after the vote came out and after people made their hacks and cuts, and the porkbarrel came out, the vote was reported and gave them an easy out and they could say "Well, I voted against this." and actually they voted for it all the time in the committee.

Some of us know this is going on. So I would say there are problems with it. Again I come back and say they are not insoluble. They can be solved, but they can only be solved by demanding leadership, the same kind of leadership that we have seen in some countries during war time. That seems to be the few times we get it. If we could get that kind because I think we are in a constant war against ourselves and I would like to see that come - they should demand it of eachother if we can demand it of people.

The exchange continues, but I'm not able to copy and paste from the document. I apologize for any typos. Post #57 has a link to the entire testimony if you want to check up on me, or read more of it.

Kerry says that they (members of Congress) don't necessarily represent their constituents. They gain public office because they have lots of money. They keep public office because of the power of being in the office in the first place. When the Chairman began to speak, Kerry interupted him to continue insulting Congress. He threw in "They (problems with Congress not representing the constituents) can be solved, but they can only be solved by demanding leadership, the same kind of leadership that we have seen in some countries during war time. That seems to be the few times we get it." What countries could he have been referring to? France? North Vietnam? The Soviet Union? Certainly not The United States. We don't get that kind of leadership here, according to Kerry. But that problem is not insulable. We can have that kind of leadership. If we elect him.

106 posted on 02/23/2004 12:58:26 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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