Illegals plan stirs anger amid 'jobless recovery'

WND ^ | 2-21-04 | Kelly Patricia O Meara

[Gritty]

This article is mostly about illegal immigration and the problems thereof, not America's general trade policies - which although not a wholly different subject is nevertheless a separate issue.

We need to control illegal immigration for a host of excellent economic, social, legal and cultural reasons. Nowhere here have I been calling for tariffs, just enforcing our present laws before our domestic situation gets out of control through illegal immigration.

We need to deal with the other issues such as our general deindustialisation, tax structures, environmental regulations and labor laws - to name a few. But those are entirely other issues, pretty much unrelated to this article which deals with the problems of illegal immigration. That is what I am addressing, not economic policies.

You infer I am making points I am not making and shouting "stop the world, I want to get off". Stop putting words in my mouth by dragging red herrings across the issue just so you can make your own unrelated points.

[Mini-14]

Indeed the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that the average salary for U.S. workers has fallen from $44,570 to $35,410 since 2001

It would be nice to know if this is the "mean" or "median".

[monkeywrench]

But, it can be stopped. When Americans stop creating, there'll be nothing left for the world sponges to absorb.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Bump......

[raloxk]

why so little confidence in Americans? When Americans stop creating????

Creative people cannot be stopped so easily

I also wouldnt refer to Indian ITers as sponges, that they are not.

[raloxk]

"It would be nice to know if this is the "mean" or "median".




it is neither, it is a lie. I looked at BLS.gov data, and there have been slow wages increases since 2001, not a 20% decline.

[JustPiper]

Ping to a good read!

[knak]

thanks

[tubavil]

It would be more productive than whining [what whining? Where do you see that? Or is intelligent fun-poking at the absurdity of pacifistic, oxymoronic terminology 'whining'?] on FR about some secretive [Huh? What?] and exclusive [Huh? What?] NWO [Huh? What?] conspiracy [Huh? What?] against you [Huh? What?], IMO.

Put the bong down, step outside in the fresh air, and breathe in...

[ETERNAL WARMING]

It says that, based on estimates from the National Academy of Sciences using age and education at arrival, "the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a negative $55,200."

Yeah, but they're so "good for the economy." ~sarcasm off~

"the INS estimated in January 2000 that 7 million illegal aliens were living in the United States."

Real fuzzy math. The Border Patrol caught over 1 million illegals last year, and they estimate they catch 1 in 5. If so, 4 million per year are getting across. That's over 12 million plus alone since Bush has been in office.

"the president's proposal is unrealistic, lacks basic credibility and is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who has studied this problem for any length of time."

I won't vote for anyone who thinks I'm this stupid.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Is Dane still a Moderator?

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Creative people cannot be stopped so easily

Yes they can. Have you tried to find Investment Money recently? It's going overseas just like the jobs.

[raloxk]

"Have you tried to find Investment Money recently? It's going overseas just like the jobs."



Actually there is far more investment money COMING INTO the USA than going out. That is why we have a trade deficit. If investment money were flowing out of the US, we would have a merchandise trade surplus. Anyways what is wrong with money going to the places where it can earn the highest return???

I am becoming really apalled at the nationalist economic ignorance that is on these boards.

[4.1O dana super trac pak]

Ouch bump.

[JustPiper]

{pout} putting a bandaid on your boo-boo