The connection is, that there are some, who are demanding that Mel remove the line in the movie in which one of the Jews egging on the Crucifixion says "let the sins be on our heads and on the heads of our children." From this, they are trying to say that this is stating that every single Jew from that point on is cursed. Now, here is the connection: Mel's father believes a certain way. So far, I have heard, or read, nothing to lead me to believe that Mel holds his father's views. However, the media is trying to take his father's statements and apply them to Mel. In other words, they are trying to say that something that a father believes is automatically believed by the son. Does that mean that, if one of Mel's kids tries to make a movie, they are going to say "are anti-semitic, like your grandfather?".
I didn't see that denial.
From the articles I have read, there seems to be an effort, on the parts of those protesting this film, to say that there should not be any part in it, showing any Jewish participation in the Crucifixion.
are you under the mistaken impression that Jews believe in any part of the so-called, "New Testament"?
Please clarify this question, as I have not stated anything about whether Jews believe in the New Testament.
Well, according to the history I've studied, this was one the excuses given by Christians throughout history for their persecution of the Jews. Do you disagree?
Now, here is the connection: Mel's father believes a certain way. So far, I have heard, or read, nothing to lead me to believe that Mel holds his father's views.
Hmmmm....
Gibson's father made no attempt to disguise his views. He told Feuerstein that the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust had been fabricated.
"It's all - maybe not all fiction - but most of it is," he told the radio interviewer.
Mel Gibson to Peggy Noonan in Reader's Digest,
"Atrocities happened. War is horrible. The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine, several million people starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century, 20 million people dies in the Soviet Union."
I can well understand how you "have heard, or read, nothing to lead me to believe that Mel holds his father's views." If the views are not exactly the same, they hold no relevance for you. I can certainly understand that. For me Mel's description of Jewish suffering as "some of them were Jews in concentration camps" seems like an afterthought. It's not the Holocaust revisionism that the father espouses, but it doesn't leave me with the certainty that you seem to have.
However, the media is trying to take his father's statements and apply them to Mel. In other words, they are trying to say that something that a father believes is automatically believed by the son.
Perhaps. I prefer to believe that the media is so against Judeo-Christian culture and values that they are trying to divide people by formenting hatred and divisiveness. Still, I do not forget that the father was "trapped" and made no attempt to disguise his views. Mel gave a prepared interview. I do not accuse Mel of anything since there is nothing I can prove. And I can certainly understand why he feels the way he does about Jewish suffering during the Holocaust. I just feel differently.
Does that mean that, if one of Mel's kids tries to make a movie, they are going to say "are anti-semitic, like your grandfather?".
I think that's a stretch. Let's see what the grandkids come up with on their own. On the other hand, how far did Ford's progeny fall from that tree? Ford was a notorious anti-Semite. And the Ford Foundation, until recently, sponsored Arab anti-Semitism, e.g., the Durbin conference in Africa a couple of years ago.
From the articles I have read, there seems to be an effort, on the parts of those protesting this film, to say that there should not be any part in it, showing any Jewish participation in the Crucifixion.
We must be reading different articles.
are you under the mistaken impression that Jews believe in any part of the so-called, "New Testament"?
Please clarify this question, as I have not stated anything about whether Jews believe in the New Testament.
It is even more ironic that they are up in the air about Mel's father denying the Holocaust when they are trying to deny that some, not all, Jews played a part in the Crucifixion.
When you say that "they are trying to deny that some, not all, Jews played a part in the Crucifixion.", you're implying that Jews believe that Jesus was an actual person who lived and was crucified with the Jews playing a part. Is that wrong?