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1 posted on 02/20/2004 7:04:45 PM PST by westerfield
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To: westerfield
Well, the ends justify the means, right?
2 posted on 02/20/2004 7:05:50 PM PST by Guillermo (It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
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To: westerfield
Oh please... on or off record his father is a loon to be ignored.
3 posted on 02/20/2004 7:06:27 PM PST by cyborg
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To: westerfield
In many states, recording someone without their knowledge is a crime. Any experts on those laws here?
4 posted on 02/20/2004 7:08:04 PM PST by per loin
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To: westerfield
The fact is, he still said/thinks it. However, it is more than a little ironic that the people, who had a big problem with one particular line in the film, are trying to take the "sins" of the father and apply them to the son.

It is even more ironic that they are up in the air about Mel's father denying the Holocaust when they are trying to deny that some, not all, Jews played a part in the Crucifixion.

6 posted on 02/20/2004 7:11:29 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: westerfield
I thought the story was that Hutton Gibson called INTO a radio station, not that someone called HIM and recorded their conversation. How hard could it be to get the story straight?
10 posted on 02/20/2004 7:14:45 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: westerfield
I wonder if anyone has reserved the URL www.mediacreeps.com ?
17 posted on 02/20/2004 7:21:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: westerfield
IMHO, For those with faith in Christ, all the attacks upon Mel's dad merely reinforces the obvious. Mel Gibson has produced something of divine good while in fellowship with God. Since Mel is unassailable, the adversary will attack all and any domains surrounding Mel like a raging lion.

So if Mel ever reads this, merely remain steadfast in His will and any cursing brought upon Mel will merely be returned by a blessing in eternity.

God bless Mel.
20 posted on 02/20/2004 7:27:25 PM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: westerfield; Dataman; dead; AppyPappy; JohnHuang2; Caleb1411
I've just been struck by a Deep Thought. Tell me if you agree. I'll phrase it as a pair of questions:

Why is it OK to go after Mel Gibson for his father's views, even to the point of hoodwinking an 85-year-old private man...

...but it isn't fair even to discuss whether Jews were involved in the death of Christ, two thousand years ago?

In one case, there is guilt by association with an ancestor; in the other, it is not even allowed to discuss the actions of ancestors.

How does that work?

Dan

(FOR THE RECORD: (1) If I need to say this, I don't think the actions or views of ancestors justify mistreating the descendants in either case; and (2) I think tricking an old man is low, low, low.)

23 posted on 02/20/2004 7:32:22 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: westerfield
Political correctness trumps the truth in these times. Truth can be awfully uncomfy, especially truth about unpleasant actions by mobs of persons of particular ethnicities. (Despite what you might wish, I'm not implying anything about the Crucifiction as I don't know shiite about it and don't give a hoot about this controversy.) Think when was the last time you heard the truth about the Los Angeles riots following the Rodney King verdict.

Books of history are re-written, unpleasant facts suppressed. why can't we all get along, all people everywhere are the same, etc, etc, Kumbaya, we are the world! That's what it's all about and not about some silly movie and the silly father of a silly actor...

38 posted on 02/20/2004 8:28:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: westerfield
A deceitful Christian-hater. Surprised?
48 posted on 02/20/2004 9:28:54 PM PST by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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To: westerfield
With no idea that his comments were being taped, Gibson's father made no attempt to disguise his views. He told Feuerstein that the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust had been fabricated.

I believe this is a major no-no with the FCC.

54 posted on 02/20/2004 9:54:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: westerfield
With no idea that his comments were being taped, Gibson's father made no attempt to disguise his views. He told Feuerstein that the number of Jews killed in the Holocaust had been fabricated.

I believe this is a major no-no with the FCC. (The taping for on-air play of someone who has not first been asked for permission.)

55 posted on 02/20/2004 9:55:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: af_vet_1981
*ping*

Thought you'd want to see this. I remember from another thread that was some discussion about how the interview came about. Here's some info.

It doesn't change Hutton's status in my book, but according to this article he was duped into this interview.
62 posted on 02/20/2004 10:33:18 PM PST by Texas2step (Reformed passion thread instigator ... but don't tell anyone.)
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To: westerfield
Lock that old nazi fool up in a closet where he belongs.
71 posted on 02/20/2004 11:48:21 PM PST by mercy
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To: westerfield
So what's the deal?

Is Hutton Gibson so stupid that he did not know he was on a radio show, or so smart that he the knows the "real" story of the Holocaust. One cannot be both...

77 posted on 02/21/2004 8:47:39 AM PST by veronica ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people." GW Bush 1-20-04)
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To: westerfield
Pat Buchanan's dad listened to Father Caughlin, Arnold Schawartzeneger's dad was a Nazi, etc. The character assassin's never sleep.
91 posted on 02/22/2004 7:28:48 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: westerfield
If I make it to 85, i'll probably give you some pretty candid opinions on things too.

Mainly why when i was a kid, you could get a double barrel cone piled half way to the ceiling for a dime...and now it costs $2.00 just to look in the box to see what you want and it isn't the "soft" ice cream it used to be.

Damn Democrats!!!!!! hope they all burn in hell wishing they had a dime cone of "soft" ice cream!!!
115 posted on 02/23/2004 3:54:46 PM PST by cajun-jack
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