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Same sex marriage fight comes to West Michigan
24 Hour News 8 ^ | February 20, 2004, 8:07 a.m. | 24 Hour News 8

Posted on 02/20/2004 8:24:18 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan

(Grand Rapids, February 20, 2004, 8:07 a.m.) Jaeden Wagner admits she's a little young to get married. But that won't stop her and her partner from showing up at the county building Friday morning to apply for a marriage license. The Grand Valley State sophomore says she's entitled to the same rights as everyone else.

The fight for same sex marriage comes to West Michigan today. Some local gay and lesbian couples plan to converge on the Kent County Clerk's office in an attempt to obtain a marriage license.

If gay and lesbian couples ask for a form, staffers for Kent County Clerk Mary Hollinrake will show them one. On the front, it requests information from the "male" and "female." - On the back of the form is the law: “No man" it says, "shall marry another man," and "no woman shall marry another woman."

If they want to get married, Hollinrake says they need to visit the capitol, not the county building.

But gays and lesbians won't find a vote in state representative Jim Koetje. Instead of supporting same sex marriage, the Walker republican says he'd rather vote for a proposed constitutional amendment banning it.

He also says he doesn't appreciate the self proclaimed act of "civil disobedience."

But Wagner says the event in Grand Rapids is just the first step in the march to the capitol city.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: civilunion; gaylesbiancouples; glbt; grandrapids; marriage; samesexmarriage
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To: IGOTMINE
They need to raise the age of consent for sex and marriage to 18. This makes all sexual contact below 18 statutory rape. There was a FR thread that said homosexual men had a high percentage who had their first "encounter" at 16. (if memory serves).

Start jailing the homosexuals who sexually recruit minors.
41 posted on 02/20/2004 5:09:50 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Protagoras
I'll try one more time, discrimination against certain married couples would be the basis. And it would certainly work.

Actually, I think the better point is discrimination against unmarried heterosexual couples.

42 posted on 02/20/2004 5:10:23 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Hey . . . hey JFK, who's a better comander in chief? GWB or LBJ?)
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To: ClintonBeGone
It has a financial basis, pure and simple.
43 posted on 02/20/2004 5:14:40 PM PST by rintense
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To: CSM
You forget immigration law. A US citizen can bring over a fiance with impunity a spouce with certainty.
44 posted on 02/20/2004 5:16:34 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: rintense
It has a financial basis, pure and simple.

Actually, while we both disagree with their desire, I think their motives are even more sinister than finanical. I think its simply the hedonistic nature of the left and their desire to destroy anything in America that is 'good'. Look at the left and their homosexual storm troopers. What do they target? Marriage, the Boy Scouts and the Flag. They're no different than Al Quida - its really about hating America and all that's made it good.

45 posted on 02/20/2004 5:33:17 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (Hey . . . hey JFK, who's a better comander in chief? GWB or LBJ?)
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To: ClintonBeGone
But that's the gist of it. There isn't a collective range of support among the gay community as to *why* they should be allowed to marry. Heck, the gay community is fractured over whether being gay is a choice or if it's genetic.
46 posted on 02/20/2004 5:37:16 PM PST by rintense
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To: ClintonBeGone
This homosexuality's got to be a genetic disorder -- I've yet to discover a straight guy DEMANDING to get married.

You don't see straight men DEMANDING to get married because nobody DENIES them the right to do so.

47 posted on 02/20/2004 8:08:29 PM PST by clamboat
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To: rintense
Surprised it happened in West Michigan first. The East side gay community is far more 'out' than over here

Better you than us. :)

48 posted on 02/20/2004 10:47:57 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: laker_dad
Bwhahahaaha. You can have her out west. :)
49 posted on 02/20/2004 10:48:25 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: BaBaStooey
Thats one of the most conservative areas in Michigan.

True, but Kent's got a lot of RINO's.

50 posted on 02/20/2004 10:49:07 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: clamboat
You don't see straight men DEMANDING to get married because nobody DENIES them the right to do so.

I think yours foolish logic. Society denies me the right to use the woman's restroom, and yet I don't demand access.

51 posted on 02/21/2004 2:43:08 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (Isaiah 53:5 But he was pierced for our transgressions)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Right , see this:

Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality

52 posted on 02/22/2004 9:51:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: ClintonBeGone
This homosexuality's got to be a genetic disorder

You may find this informative:

How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together
Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.

Dr. Spitzer used to believe homosexuals couldn't leave the lifestyle, but after his own study he now believes they can. That must have been one very revealing study for Spitzer to change his mind on such a hot controversial issue. Source

Also: Homosexuality and Genetics.

53 posted on 02/23/2004 7:55:02 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
LOL Oh, the homos hate that approach - that they can change their behavior. I love to watch how upset they get at these ads. Thanks for the info.
54 posted on 02/23/2004 8:19:59 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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