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To: WayneM
that happens where I am too. they say (privately of course) it is more "compassionate" to fire the Americans, because if they fire the H1Bs, they have to leave the country since their visa status is contingent on them having the job. It would be mean spirited to do this, so they fire the American instead.

Is this whole country turned upside down or what?
9 posted on 02/19/2004 8:18:14 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Don't forget the take of the Dept. of Labor, i.e. "We never said that Americans (taxpayers) had any preference on jobs".
11 posted on 02/19/2004 8:24:14 PM PST by Righty1 (N)
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To: oceanview
Next you get a chance go into a local community college. You won't see that many americans.

From what I was able to pick up from one manager, they look use the H-1B visa program as a social program to show high nice America can be.

Maybe it is time to go to the office in DC and freep it. Here is a list of corporations who support this organization:

Active Matter • Agilent Technologies • Amaram Technology Corporation • American Council on Education • American Council on International Personnel
American Electronics Association • Analog Devices, Inc. • Applied Materials, Inc. • AsiaStudios.com • AssetPlanner • Association of American Universities
Association of Independent Research Institutes • Authentica, Inc. • Authoria, Inc. • Avicon • Axiomatic Design Software, Inc. • Back Bay Interactive • Basis Technology Corporation
Baton Rouge International, Inc. • Best@IT Inc. • Biotechnology Industry Organization • BiT Group, Inc. • Blue Fang Games, LLC • Bluewater Information Convergence, Inc.
Bondi Software, Inc. • BP Amoco Corporation • Brandeis University • BrassRing Systems • Brooks Automation, Inc. • California Institute of Technology • Call Center Services, Inc.
Cambridge Publications, Inc. • CapNet • Cargill, Incorporated • Caterpillar Inc. • CD\Works • Clarity Consulting, Inc. • Clockwork Software Associates Corp. • cMeRun Corp.
College and University Professional Association for Human Resources • Columbia University • CommercialWare, Inc. • Compaq Computer Corporation
Compaque Business Solutions, Inc. • Computer & Communications Industry Association • Computing Technology Industry Association • Concert Technologies Corp.
Cornell University • Data Systems Analysts, Inc. • Dataware • Del Monte Fresh Produce Company • Des Lauriers Municipal Solutions, Inc. • The Digital Dialogue Forum
DSP Software Engineering, Inc. • DuPont • DYS Analytics, Inc. • eComServer, Inc. • EC Cubed, Inc. • EDGE Technical Services, LLC • e-Dialog, Inc. • Electronic Industries Alliance
Electronic Services, Inc. • Eli Lilly and Company • Eliassen Group, Inc. • Enron • ESRI • European-American Business Council • FabCentric, Inc. • Florida State University
Foliage Software Systems • Free Software Foundation • GeoTrust Incorporated • Great Lakes Technologies Group • Greensboro Day School • Group Benefits Shoppers, Inc.
HandsFree Networks • Harris Corporation • Harte-Hanks Data Technologies • Harvard Design & Mapping • Hewlett-Packard • HPC Technologies, Inc. • IBM Corporation
i2 Technologies • iGATE Capital • IIC-Indotronix International Corporation • Incentive Systems, Inc. • InCert Software Corp. • Indiana University
Information Technology Association of America • Information Technology Industry Council • Infovation, Inc. • Intel • International Technology Solutions, Inc. • InterRide Company
The Johns Hopkins University • Jordan Group, Inc. • Kanbay Incorporated • Keane, Inc. • KLA-Tencor Companies • LavaStorm, Inc. • LPA • Magic Hour Communications
Majesco Software Inc. • Massachusetts Software & Internet Council • MessageMachines, Inc. • Microsoft • Milestone Consulting Group • Modalis Research Technologies, Inc.
Moldflow Corporation • Motorola • NAFSA: Association of International Educators • National Association of Manufacturers • National Association of State Universities and Land-Grant Colleges
National Energy Programs Opportunity Development, Inc. National Retail Federation • National Venture Capital Association • Netegrity, Inc. • Neteos, Inc. • NetScout Systems, Inc.
Network Solutions, A VeriSign Company • Nevo Technologies, Inc. • New Era of Networks, Inc. (NEON) • NorthPoint Software Ventures Inc. • Northwestern Software, Inc.
Northwestern University • The Ohio State University • Oklahoma State University • Optigrab • Oracle Corporation • OrderTrust, Inc. • Owens-Illinois, Inc. • PanAmSat
The Pennsylvania State University The PictureTel Corporation • Pinnacle Software Solutions, Inc. • PlanetSoft, Inc. • Power Industries, Inc. • PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
PrimeResponse, Inc. • Primesoft Consulting, Inc. • ProNetMusic, Inc. • Purdue University • Quadrant Software • R Systems, Inc. • Radnet, Inc. • Redington Solutions USA, Inc.
Regal Computer Systems, Inc. Rockwell • Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey • SAI Universal Business, Inc. • Semiconductor Equipment and Materials International
Semiconductor Industry Association • Silverline Technologies, Ltd. • SmarterKids.com, Inc. • Society for Human Resource Management • SoftLinx, Inc.
Software & Information Industry Association • SpeechWorks International Inc. • SriMurthy.Com, Inc. • Stanford University • STMicroelectronics, Inc. • Stolt-Nielsen Transportation Group
StorageTek • Sun Microsystems, Inc. • Super Budget, Inc. • Syncrhonics, Inc. • Syracuse University • TCG Software Services, Inc. • Technology Workforce Coalition
Telecommunications Industry Association • Telcordia Technologies, Inc. • Texas Instruments • Torrent Systems • TRW Inc. • Tufts University • Tulane University • Tvisions Inc.
Unisphere Solutions, Inc. • The University of California • University of Cincinnati • University of Illinois • University of Miami • University of Michigan • University of Minnesota
University of Missouri-Columbia • University of Southern California • The University of Texas System • University of Washington • University of Wisconsin-Madison
University System of Maryland • U.S. Chamber of Commerce • Vanderbilt University • VI Engineering, Inc. • Virginia Tech • VisaNow.com, Inc. • Vitel Software, Inc. • Vogt-NEM, Inc.
Washington University in St. Louis • Western Michigan University • Whirlpool Corporation • WSSDesign • Xilinx • Xyvision Enterprise Solutions, Inc. • Z-Firm, LLC • Zoesis Studios
13 posted on 02/19/2004 8:32:29 PM PST by hotdogjones
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To: oceanview; FITZ; Happy2BMe; hotdogjones
Here are the real culprits -

http://www.aila.org/

The American Immigraton Lawyers Assocaiation - who is supporting and profiting from all the influx of immigrants.

Shameless and brazen:

A couple of form letters here from their web site, to get congress to prevent immigration laws from being enforced:

http://capwiz.com/aila2/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=3434991

I strongly urge you to oppose the Clear Law Enforcement for Criminal Alien Removal (CLEAR) Act (H.R. 2671). This bill would require state and local police to enforce federal civil immigration laws or lose certain critical funding.

State and local police have worked hard to gain the trust of immigrant residents and convince them that it is safe to contact local law enforcement. By turning all police into immigration agents, the CLEAR Act will discourage immigrants from coming forward to report crimes and suspicious activity, making our streets less safe as a result.

The CLEAR Act improperly shifts the burden of federal immigration law enforcement to local police and would cost billions of dollars to implement. In these times of scarce local resources, this dramatic restructuring of enforcement responsibilities makes no sense from a financial or public safety perspective.

This is why state and local police departments nationwide strongly opposed, and advocated against, a similar Justice Department policy last year. Local law enforcement agencies are in the best position to evaluate and prioritize their allocation of resources, and have publicly stated that these policies will tie their hands and prevent them from doing their duty.

I ask that you work to oppose and defeat H.R. 2671.

===

I strongly urge you to oppose the Homeland Security Enhancement Act (HSEA) (S. 1906). This bill would require state and local police to enforce federal civil immigration laws or lose certain critical funding. It also contains troubling provisions related to driver's licenses and other identification documents.

State and local police departments nationwide strongly opposed, and advocated against, a similar Justice Department policy last year. These law enforcement agencies are in the best position to evaluate and prioritize their allocation of resources, and have publicly stated that policies, such as those included in S. 1906, would tie their hands and prevent them from doing their duty. For instance, state and local police have worked hard to gain the trust of immigrant residents and convince them that it is safe to contact local law enforcement. By turning all police into immigration agents, the HSEA will discourage immigrants from coming forward to report crimes and suspicious activity, making our streets less safe as a result.

The HSEA improperly shifts the burden of federal immigration law enforcement to local police and would cost billions of dollars to implement. In these times of scarce local resources, this dramatic restructuring of enforcement responsibilities makes no sense from a financial or public safety perspective. The HSEA also contains provisions that would deny funding to States that issue driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants, and would prohibit the federal government from recognizing identification cards issued by the consulates of foreign governments and driver's licenses issued to aliens by the States unless such licenses expire on the date that immigration status expires. These provisions would have the perverse effect of making us less, not more, safe. States are responsible for the safety of their roads and highways and the best way to ensure that is to require driving licensure of all residents, regardless of immigration status. Moreover, secure consular identification cards and/or driver's licenses can help U.S. law enforcement officials identify people who lack other appropriate documentation.

For these reasons, I urge you to strongly oppose S. 1906.
AILA, 918 F Street, NW, Washington DC 20004



24 posted on 02/19/2004 10:15:41 PM PST by XBob
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To: oceanview
"Is this whole country turned upside down or what?"

Yes, it is. What was once national pride is now viewed strictly as profit or loss within international companies. The hyphonated titling has assisted in this. Until we all become Americans again, which I doubt will ever happen, we won't see a change.

The CPI just came out for January. It is +$0.5%. A little inflation is what we are needing but I would have been happier with a +$0.3% because this will take a big bite out of our Presidents solidarity as the year progresses. The last thing we as a country or he needs to control the economy is have the interest rate start to climbing.

This of course does have positive effects also, it will slow down the mad rush to spend every dollar in the Treasury.

32 posted on 02/20/2004 5:42:59 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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