Just when did John Ashcroft join the Nazi Party?

WorldNetDaily ^ | 30 January 2004 | Jack Cashill

[Verginius Rufus]

Dean talked about how as a boy he had delivered newspapers on the street where the Hardings had lived, so he must have grown up in Marion, Ohio, and that could be why he was sufficiently interested in Harding to write a book about him. He mentioned love letters Harding had written to another woman with whom he had had an affair...it is possible that Nan Britton never had an affair with Harding, but had access to those love letters and made up a story on the basis of what she had learned from them. The love letters didn't come to light until much later, and some material is still off-limits to researchers.

[grumple]

at the risk of being called a homophobe

One should not worry about such trivial risks. I have come to find that if they want to call you one, they will regardless of how hard someone tries to avoid being called one, nor regardless of how much someone knows themselves not to be one. Nor to be a racist, or a bigot of any kind.

In the eyes of many gay people, since I disagree with their form of alternative lifestyle, I am therefore a homophobe. Note I did not say all, just many. I can accept this. After all I am not interested in changing the way they think or feel. It's a free country, however, my demeanor changes just a bit when they call me a "breeder".

So go on, be proud, stand tall and be the homophobe they will make you out to be regardless of your ability to accept them and their lifestyle. For it is they, that cannont accept the fact that you don't quite accept them. Which means they don't accept you either. Confused yet?

[FreedomPoster]

>>It [Nazi] has become nothing more than a cheap insult that the uneducated masses throw out whenever they need a quick out of a lost argument.

If you are not familiar with Godwin's Law, you should be. It should be invoked every time "John Ashcroft is a Nazi" gets used by Liberal fools.

Godwin's Law
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html

[GraceCoolidge]

He mentioned love letters Harding had written to another woman with whom he had had an affair...it is possible that Nan Britton never had an affair with Harding, but had access to those love letters and made up a story on the basis of what she had learned from them. The love letters didn't come to light until much later, and some material is still off-limits to researchers.

From what I've read, there are a lot of letters that have been researched. The other affair was with a woman named Carrie Phillips who was a family friend of the Hardings, the two couples socialized and vacationed together. The affair has been pretty exhaustively documented. As for Nan Britton, she had a daughter named Marion who apparently was accepted as his own by Harding. Don't forget also that crates and crates of papers were destroyed by Florence Harding after her husband's death; in addition, he'd left instructions for certain private papers to be destroyed by his office assistant, so probably we will never know the whole story. There is a pretty good biography of Florence Harding by Carl Sferraza Anthony that sheds light on some of this stuff.... but now we're getting way off topic on this thread, sorry!

[MegaSilver]

Confused yet?

Nope, you're making a lot more sense than those who would accuse me of being a homophobe.

And actually, my tongue was planted (somewhat) in cheek with that remark.

[MegaSilver]

The best line in the article. It shows that LEFTISTS (they're NOT liberals) don't even have any core beliefs when it comes to their own "liberalism."

I dunno. Read the Unabomber Manifesto and Modern Fascism: Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview. It's fragmented, for sure, but there are ideological underpinings that tie it all together.

[grumple]

And actually, my tongue was planted (somewhat) in cheek with that remark.

I was aware of that. Please don't take my comments as being snide. I was just having fun with homophobia. A concept I don't completely understand ;)

[FreedomPoster]

>>After all I am not interested in changing the way they think or feel. It's a free country, however, my demeanor changes just a bit when they call me a "breeder".

FWIW, I've been making arguments with Libs that government encouraging heterosexual family formation with marriage and laws favoring "breeders", is more than justifiable on a societal Darwinism basis. It is much more effective than throwing Biblical arguments at them. Their heads start spinning around and steam comes out there ears; quite amusing.

[tbpiper]

I don't think any politician in history has been compared to Hitler more than H. Clinton.

It's really unfair to Hitler. :)

[gcruse]

The love letters didn't come to light until much later, and some material is still off-limits to researchers.

In Francis Russell's "Shadow of Blooming Grove," there were quotes from letters originally slated for publication.  When the book came out, those sections were printed with dashes instead of words.  I don't know if this is the same material as in contention now, but one would think so.  The Russell book is the best Harding bio I have read, and I've read them all.

I'd call it the definitive bio, but that's not my job.

I didn't realize Britton has become so throughly put out of the official story.  I remember that the plates for her book, "The President's Daughter," were destroyed or something like that, and that the book was suppressed to the point it was sold from door to door.  I used to have a copy of it and a pretty nice Harding collection but got rid of everything when I last moved.

Anyway, Britton's book is so treacly you'd think Peggy Noonan wrote it as a teenager.  Maybe the whole Britton thing is malarkey and maybe Bill Clinton didn't rape anybody.  But there are a lot of quite detailed stories in both scandals that no one would be expected to fabricate on spec.  Thing is, Harding comes off as an amiable oaf with lax morals who shouldn't have been able to get away with a secret sexual life.

Whereas Clinton has no self control, a pattern of indulging rapaciousness, and the arrogance to think he can force acceptance of patent lies because of who he is.  Harding lacked the vicious arrogance of  Clinton and  the careless disregard Clinton has for the women around him, truth, the welfare of anything other than himself, and what anyone thinks about it.

[gcruse]

Resurrecting Harding

[watchin]

That line was pure mockery. He goes on to describe their hysterical, hyperventilating fits.

[watchin]

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