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Passion Deficit [for Bush's re-election]
World Magazine ^ | 2/21/2004 | Joel Belz

Posted on 02/19/2004 7:50:28 AM PST by Eala

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To: Wright is right!
"where participants go - not for the sci-fi, but for the sex"

Could you explain this? I really had no idea.

21 posted on 02/19/2004 8:27:13 AM PST by Check_Your_Premises (To crush your enemies, and see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the left)
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To: jpl
I cannot see where President Bush has been "Lacking" in leadership.

Have I missed something here? Was 911, Afghanistan, his confronting the UN council, the war in Iraq, all of his many, very conservative accomplishments in the last 3 years, evidence he has not lead this country?

If so, you must have some idea of what is "correct" leadership. I would welcome some realistic and logical explanation for your lack of vision.

22 posted on 02/19/2004 8:34:10 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Careful! Your TAGS are the mirror of your SOUL!)
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To: wjcsux
Where's the evidence that Bush has the guts to replace these people with true conservatives? Has he done anything about affirmative action? Illegal immigration? Employers exploiting the system to import foreigners who'll work for cheap? I don't think so. His concerns are athletes and steroids and jobs for ex-convicts. Sorry, this guy is out of touch.
23 posted on 02/19/2004 8:36:07 AM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: McGavin999
He didn't talk to me. And anyone who is so stupid they don't realize that the war on terror is the central issue is just too dumb for me to worry about. I can't believe how uninformed these people are. That's like someone worrying about a hangnail while their car is being carjacked.

Thank you - I've made it one of my missions to go out and "bad mouth" all the "Freepers" who kick and howl about the little stuff and ignore the real issues - I tend to put them on the same side of the aisle as the Dims and it raises some hackles, but they keep trying to justify some of their inanities. It's refreshing to see you and a few of the others who will mention it.

24 posted on 02/19/2004 8:36:24 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: Spok
Another nation or outside group will never destroy this nation.

What is going to kill us (and already has us sick) is the internal immorality and lack of freedom that grows daily in this nation.

25 posted on 02/19/2004 8:39:02 AM PST by MarcoPolo
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To: Eala
"Steeeerike one!"
"Hey ump, you can't call a strike on him. The first pitch hasn't been thrown yet."
26 posted on 02/19/2004 8:39:19 AM PST by muskogee
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To: Eala
I agree with many others here that my disappointment in the Bush administration is increasing. President Bush now appears to have to weigh all his words before he speaks- and is it because this is an election year? I miss the 'old' President Bush- forceful, bold and unafraid.
The illegal immigration issues, the trade deficit and the gay marriage issues need to be addressed by the President- and from a conservative position IF he is to gain back the passion many of us once had for him. I can't understand why the Bush team can't see what is so clear to the rest of us patriots.
27 posted on 02/19/2004 8:42:14 AM PST by Faithfull
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To: Check_Your_Premises
""where participants go - not for the sci-fi, but for the sex" Could you explain this? I really had no idea."

You'd have to have known someone who regularly goes to sci-fi conventions to be aware of it, or have worked one of their conventions. The same is true at so-called Plushie Conventions, where attendees dress up as teddy bears and other stuffed plush toys. CSI even did an episode on it.

The people who attend sci-fi conventions are real die-hards, going to as many conventions as possible. There is a strong hook-up mentality amongst them, and I'm not sure how it got started. The attendees roughly separate into two camps - those who dress up and those who don't. By dress up, I mean wear either StarTrek or alien costumes. Among the dressers, there is the anonymity provided by the costume, and with that comes the shedding of inhibitions (and other things). But there's just as much sex among the non-dressers, too.

Any Freepers hanging around who've been to sci-fi conventions wanna add some personal experiences?

Michael

28 posted on 02/19/2004 8:44:16 AM PST by Wright is right! (It's amazing how fun times when you're having flies.)
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To: Eala
1976 all over again. Deep hatred from the opposition, an incumbent who has 46-52% job approval and lukewarm intensity from his supporters. It yields a narrow popular vote loss for Bush.
29 posted on 02/19/2004 8:44:34 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: reed_inthe_wind
The issue discussed here has nothing to do with Kerry. It has to do with how excited Republicans are to go out and vote for him. He's suggesting we have the "blahs" about Bush. I think there might be merit to his argument.
30 posted on 02/19/2004 8:46:08 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: beckysueb
"Democratics"? I prefer democraps.
31 posted on 02/19/2004 8:48:52 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Eala
only a TRUE LIB could even CONCEIVE of a term
like "Passion Deficit"!
32 posted on 02/19/2004 8:55:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GraniteStateConservative
1976 all over again...

Not quite...unless you're willing to tell me that President Bush was never elected President, but stepped into office after his predecessor's resignation.

33 posted on 02/19/2004 9:04:58 AM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I cannot see where President Bush has been "Lacking" in leadership.

Have I missed something here? Was 911, Afghanistan, his confronting the UN council, the war in Iraq, all of his many, very conservative accomplishments in the last 3 years, evidence he has not lead this country?

If so, you must have some idea of what is "correct" leadership. I would welcome some realistic and logical explanation for your lack of vision.

Look, I honestly like President Bush and think he's trying to do his best, and I'm absolutely committed to voting for him and working to convince others to do the same. But honestly, and I really hope you don't take this personally, you and some other people here on F.R. really need to get out and talk to average people out there once in a while that aren't Freepers.

There is a LOT of legitimate concern out there about things like unchecked illegal immigration, job flow, and the spiralling-out-of-control deficit. And believe me, these concerns aren't just coming only from rabid left-wingers, a lot of it is coming from moderate non-political types who aren't necessarily dedicated to one party or the other.

This isn't at all personal, it's just facts on the ground as I see it from talking to people nowadays.

34 posted on 02/19/2004 9:28:56 AM PST by jpl
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To: WestSylvanian
Has he done anything about affirmative action? Illegal immigration? Employers exploiting the system to import foreigners who'll work for cheap?

Did Reagan? (answer is NO!)
35 posted on 02/19/2004 9:38:50 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: WestSylvanian
His concerns are athletes and steroids and jobs for ex-convicts. Sorry, this guy is out of touch.

Let's see...he spent 57 minutes talking about the war on terror and the economy and 90 seconds on steroids. Certainly, his focus in solely on the topic he spoke about for a minute and a half.

36 posted on 02/19/2004 9:41:03 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: jpl
That depends on where you live. Where I live, the opposite is true. As far as the "job flow" is concerned, how is that the President's fault?

Since when is it the duty of the President to hold business at gunpoint and operate the way they are told?

Protectionist economics are proven to be the worst thing any country can do. It is a guaranteed failure. <>In the 80's, our country had the same kind of white-collar job loses due to down sizing, etc..., very similar to our current trend. Americans didn't lay down and die or go on welfare, they did the American thing, they started their own businesses to replace the ones that left. The result was the boom of the 90's that isn't over yet.

37 posted on 02/19/2004 9:47:17 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Careful! Your TAGS are the mirror of your SOUL!)
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To: Wright is right!
How better to find and hook up with new and EASY partners?
38 posted on 02/19/2004 9:57:23 AM PST by MrB
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To: Irene Adler
Add one Independent and take away one Republican and what is your net gain? The loses may even exceed the gains. There is no sure fire way to win the mushy middle. There are sure fire ways to lose your base.
39 posted on 02/19/2004 10:00:16 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
He's suggesting we have the "blahs" about Bush.

Conservatives should be conserving a little energy (you may interpret this as the "blahs") The Federalist notion of government is buried in a pile of judicial activism. The struggle to regain what has been lost (limited government) is going to be long. Compared to the liberals, conservatives have a long war ahead; the liberals will achieve their victory when they install a free spending Kerry, Edwards or whomever as President of the USA. But conservatives know that the next battle is one important step on the road home. Electing Bush means controlling or at least influencing the courts. Until we change the courts, the balanced budget battles are just a sideshow of an era of bloated government. Each annual budget battle is important but not really critical if the whole ship is off coarse. When the Dem candidate steps into the open, we conservatives will destroy him. Why, because it is step one.

40 posted on 02/19/2004 10:10:24 AM PST by reed_inthe_wind (Vienna said the middlemen come from Ger, Nether,Belg, S Af, Jap,Dub, Mal,USA,Rus,Chin,and Pak.)
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