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To: an amused spectator
No, I am not shooting from the lip. Ann is dead*ss wrong about this one. I dislike Max Clelland as much as the next Republican, but for her to mock his service and his tragic loss of limbs really is over the top.

You guys can indulge in your Coulter hagiography all you want, but she is wrong here in her assessment. The history is correct, but her take is dead wrong.

If someone had foolishly, say, her brother, blown his limbs off, would that be laughable to you all?
47 posted on 02/18/2004 6:40:30 PM PST by annyokie (There are two sides to every argument, but I'm too busy to listen to yours.)
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To: annyokie
No, I am not shooting from the lip. Ann is dead*ss wrong about this one. I dislike Max Clelland as much as the next Republican, but for her to mock his service and his tragic loss of limbs really is over the top.

Oh, really? So it was OK for Cleland & the Demoscum to mock the National Guard as "weekend warriors" during their drive-by on Dubya, I guess.

You & the William F. Buckleys of the Right can stick to Marquis of Queensbury rules if you like. Us militant conservatives are going to play by the new rules.

51 posted on 02/18/2004 6:54:55 PM PST by an amused spectator (articulating AAS' thoughts on FR since 1997)
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To: annyokie
What do we say about a man like Cleland who put the unions ahead of national security immediately after September 11th.

What do we say about a man who has been willing to lie and say he was accused of not being patriotic when in fact he was holding up the business of this nation's security.

Real men, even grievously injured men, do not exploit their injuries for personal gain or to the detriment of their country.

65 posted on 02/18/2004 7:39:02 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: annyokie
You're missing THE point.

From the age of 28, Max became a DNC apparatchik and a refuge from elected office and appointed gravy.

For the current slander of X43, Max allowed his record to be grossly shamefully misrepresented in the national media.

I suspect that Max's medals were sexed up by Westmoreland's political machinery in the first place, but Max is clearly culpable in his current service as a DNC political hitman.

Max is a cripple, but now his his character is crippled.

Max volunteered for this free-fire zone.

For his pasrt in the Bush slander, Max just picked up his second grenade.

From now on, Max will be just another pathetic hack.
83 posted on 02/18/2004 9:23:41 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: annyokie
Ann is never PC. that is not her job. But the dems are lying about this. She is merely politically incorrect. It sometimes takes shock to call attention to factual lies.
93 posted on 02/18/2004 11:09:02 PM PST by js1138
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To: annyokie
Read the article again. I don't know about the first article, but this article is respectful to Cleland. It doesn't attack him. It skewers the Democrats for USING him and lying about him. Other people lying about him, not Cleland lying about himself. Cleland comes out of this looking good, maybe better than he should, since he did LET other people lie about him.
126 posted on 02/19/2004 6:26:48 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: annyokie
If someone had foolishly, say, her brother, blown his limbs off, would that be laughable to you all?

Of course it wouldn't be laughable, it would be tragic. It would be worthy of comment and correction, though, if that "someone" then claimed that "foolishly... blow[ing] his limbs off" made him heroic, deserving of a lifetime elected post, and above any criticism. A "tragic hero" isn't a hero just because he is tragic. Ann Coulter's piece was not just "pick on the disabled guy." It addressed an issue created by Max Cleland when he deliberately paints himself as a war hero unjustly smeared as unpatriotic by conservatives, and when he takes it upon himself to use his injuries as some kind of expertise to comment on President Bush's military service. In fact, it appears that Mr. Cleland is someone who sustained injuries in a tragic accident during military service and who was voted out of office because of his misguided policies. The article was about contradicting Max Cleland's misrepresentations, not about mocking the disabled. The fact that his misrepresentations are directly tied to his disabilities may be sad, but it does not entitle him to a free pass.

157 posted on 02/19/2004 11:31:12 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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