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To: Federalist 78
I hate to say it but won't it require a constitutional amendment to codify this otherwise sound piece of legislation? It seems to me that, ultimately, the Supreme Court could just strike this down on separation of powers arguments otherwise.
4 posted on 02/18/2004 4:27:54 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969
Constitution - Article III - Congress can expand/contract ALL appellate jurisdiction of SCOTUS.

Federalist #41 "It will not be denied, that power is of an encroaching nature, and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it." FEDERAL COURTS have greatly expanded their jurisdiction beyond the confines of the Constitution. (see http://www.law.ua.edu/lawreview/grayone.htm )

http://www.peopleforlife.org/clarencethomas.html
The Constitution means what the delegates of the Philadelphia Convention and of the state ratifying conventions understood it to mean; not what we judges think it should mean.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/const/fed/fed_51.html
But it is not possible to give to each department an equal power of self-defense. In republican government, the legislative authority necessarily predominates.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/const/fed/fed_78.html

...It proves incontestably, that the judiciary is beyond comparison the weakest of the three departments of power1

PUBLIUS.

1 The celebrated Montesquieu, speaking of them, says: "Of the three powers above mentioned, the judiciary is next to nothing.'' "Montesquieu: The Spirit of Laws.'' vol. i., page 186.

 

http://www.jmu.edu/jmuweb/visitors/news/visitors3348.shtml
When delegates to the Constitutional Convention assembled at Philadelphia, the 36-year-old Madison took frequent and emphatic part in the debates. Madison made a major contribution to the ratification of the Constitution by writing, with Alexander Hamilton and John Jay, the Federalist essays. In later years, when he was referred to as the "Father of the Constitution," Madison protested that the document was not "the off-spring of a single brain," but "the work of many heads and many hands."



The "Federalist" may fairly enough be regarded as the most authentic exposition of the text of the federal Constitution as understood by the Body [Constitutional Convention] which prepared & and the Authorities [state ratifying conventions] which accepted it. James Madison Letter to Thomas Jefferson, February 8, 1825 (Peterson, 1974, 2. page 383)



The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary, as distinguished from technical meaning; where the intention is clear, there is no room for construction, and no excuse for interpolation or addition. - Martin v. Hunter's Lessee, 1 Wheat 304; Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat 419; Brown v. Maryland, 12 Wheat 419; Craig v. Missouri, 4 Pet 10; Tennessee v. Whitworth, 117 U.S. 139; Lake County v. Rollins, 130 U.S. 662; Hodges v. United States, 203 U.S. 1; Edwards v. Cuba R. Co., 268 U.S. 628; The Pocket Veto Case, 279 U.S. 655; (Justice) Story on the Constitution, 5th ed., Sec 451; Cooley's Constitutional Limitations, 2nd ed., p. 61, 70.



On every question of construction [of the Constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or intended against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), letter to Judge William Johnson, (from Monticello, June 12, 1823)

Read anti-federalist 78-83 http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1389/antifeds/antifed.html

 

Read fed 78-83 http://thomas.loc.gov/home/histdox/fedpapers.html

 

 

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20031006-085845-5892r.htm

Over the last 200 years, Congress has exercised this authority to except certain areas from the jurisdiction of the federal court system. In Turner vs. Bank of North America 4 Dall. (4 U.S.,8(1799)),the Supreme Court concluded that the federal courts derive their judicial power from Congress, not the Constitution.


In Cary vs. Curtis 3 How, (44 U.S.), 236 (1845), a statute made final the decision of the secretary of the Treasury in certain tax deductions. The statute was challenged as an unconstitutional deprivation of the judicial power of the courts. The Supreme Court concluded that the jurisdiction of the federal courts (inferior to the Supreme Court) was in the sole power of Congress.


In Sheldon vs. Sill 8 How (49 U.S. 441 (1850)), involved the validity of the assignee clause of the Judicial Act of 1789 restricting such action to establish federal court jurisdictions. The Supreme Court sustained the power of Congress to limit the jurisdiction of the inferior federal courts.


In Ex Parte McCardle 6 Wall. (73 U.S.) 318 (1868), the Supreme Court accepted review on certiorari of a denial of a petition for a writ of habeas corpus by the circuit court. Congress, fearful the Supreme Court would honor the writ, passed a law repealing the act which authorized the appeal. The Supreme Court dismissed the case for lack of jurisdiction.


In Lauf vs. E.G. Shinner & Co. 303 U.S. 323, 330 (1938), the Supreme Court upheld the power of Congress to define and limit the jurisdiction of the inferior courts of the United States in the form restrictions on the issuance of injunctions in labor disputes under the Norris-La Guardia Act of 1932.
In Lockerty v. Phillips 319 U.S. 182 (1943), Congress provided for a special court to appeal price control decisions under the Emergency Price Control Act of 1942. The Supreme Court sustained this restriction.


In the 107th Congress (2001-2002), Congress used the authority of Article III, Section 2, clause 2 on 12 occasions to limit the jurisdiction of the federal courts.

5 posted on 02/18/2004 4:29:55 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: mcg1969
Regarding separation of powers, I'm astonished that both the Vermont and Massachusetts supreme courts actually ordered their respective state legislatures to address the gay marriage issue in a manner demanded by the courts. What's astonishing is not that our out-of-control courts arrogated such power to themselves, but that both the Vermont and Massachusetts legislatures meekly complied. What both legislatures should have done — precisely on separation of powers grounds — was to tell their respective courts to shove it where the sun don't shine.
11 posted on 02/18/2004 5:08:53 PM PST by Wolfstar (A self-confident cowboy nation, or a Kerrified nation. Your choice.)
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