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No WIre Transfers FROM Illegal Aliens to Foreign Countries!
Howard for Senate ^ | 2/18/04 | Howard Kaloogian

Posted on 02/18/2004 1:07:45 PM PST by TatooChick

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61 posted on 02/18/2004 3:16:20 PM PST by Missouri
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To: TatooChick
Which is why banks want the transaction fees. They only need to use an atm card. Send a card to a relative and they can access the ATM machine in the "old country". It complies with notification laws.

It is really easy. Forbid the Consular Matricula ID's. They are nothing but passports which have no visa included. If you are here on anything but a true resident card, you have no reason to use anything but a passport to open a bank account. No visa, no account.
62 posted on 02/18/2004 3:28:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: proxy_user
Unless contradicted by treaty, every non-resident alien has to have a passport, a visa, and a I-94 card (says how long they are allowed to stay pursuant to their visa). For example a B1/B2 visa can be good for 10 years but each trip can only be 3 -6 months max.

The consular matricula is an underhanded and illegal means of bypassing US/mexican treaty.
63 posted on 02/18/2004 3:38:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Glenn
At the post office you need an international money order. Those orders are also reported and traceable.

Banks just wanted in on the transaction fees.
64 posted on 02/18/2004 3:39:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: ibbryn
Will not be effecti either because a DL and Soc Sec. card is sufficient proof. Many illegals have both.
65 posted on 02/18/2004 3:41:18 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: longtermmemmory
I think there are some countries from which no visa is required for a stay of less than three months, such as the UK.
66 posted on 02/18/2004 4:10:23 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Squawk 8888
Beware the slippery slope. "Your papers, please" is not something one wants to hear in a free country.

Here in California, I would welcome it.

67 posted on 02/18/2004 4:17:03 PM PST by Floratina
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To: Missouri
"Last year more than $30 billion was sent from immigrants in the United States", thereby removing an approximate $210 billion from circulating in the American economy which would have been taxed seven times as it changed hands.

As our President stated that he would not give 'foreign aid to Mexico while he was in Office.

Instead he allows $210 billion to be withdrawn from our nation. I have no idea what the circulation rate on the $30 billion would be in Mexico, but I am presuming at least five times.

That results in $150 billion US dollars of foreign aid from where I sit.

68 posted on 02/18/2004 5:05:21 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: Missouri
If they are sending home $30 billion, it would be reasonable to suspect the wages amounted to $60 billion. That $60 billion is dollars Americans should have been earning in wages, not aliens.

If Ted Kennedy and President Bush don't each receive 50 million Christmas cards and Thank you cards every year that will give us Americans where their sense of appreciation lies.

69 posted on 02/18/2004 5:10:49 PM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: DakotaGator
Try wiring money now to a ***foreign*** country. You will be asked for ID and if you don't provide it you will not be allowed to wire.

Look up Thomas foreign exchange and wire service in your yellow pages, go to one of their kiosks and ask them what is required to wire funds to a foreign country. You can telephone and ask just as easily.

Those that say someone will always find a way around these types of measures are correct to a point but the risk-reward ratio increases and makes it more difficult to function. That is the goal, to make life difficult for those that enter illegally.

Those that say others will act as surrogates to wire money are also correct but think about it. The fee taken to wire money illegally will be irritating to the illegal person. And if the person wiring on behalf of an illegal is informed for example by posted placards of criminal penalties associated with such money wires, the risk-reward ratio will increase further.

These kinds of measures are easy to implement by law because businesses can easily be checked or tested to see if they are complying. As stated before, many business such as Thomas FX do this already.
70 posted on 02/18/2004 5:31:08 PM PST by Hostage
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To: angkor
So American should just throw in the towel? Nothing will ever work?
71 posted on 02/18/2004 5:33:34 PM PST by Hostage
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To: TatooChick
Note to self: Vote for someone other than loony, control-freak busy-bodies such as Howard Kaloogian.
72 posted on 02/18/2004 5:35:29 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: TatooChick
Time to send a check Howard Kaloogian.
73 posted on 02/18/2004 5:38:58 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Cultural Jihad
I've been advocating this measure of stopping money outflow for the last few weeks on FR.

I wired funds to Sweden recently and was asked for ID and they made a copy of it and attached it to their transaction slip.

I don't want government intrusion either, I don't even want an IRS. But wired money going out of the country? I think it's fair game.

When I go abroad I have to declare cash if it exceeds $10,000. It seems these restrictions have a long history intertwined with U.S. Tariff law. I don't see why it would be objectionable to anyone.
74 posted on 02/18/2004 5:40:26 PM PST by Hostage
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To: TatooChick
Smart man with vision, when is he due to hit the Senate?
75 posted on 02/18/2004 5:41:54 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Wonder Warthog
Every dollar an illegal "earns" is directly stolen from some American citizen or LEGAL immigrant.

Bull.

76 posted on 02/18/2004 6:10:50 PM PST by TankerKC (My life is a Country Song.)
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To: TatooChick
Great idea. Even if it fails to stem illegal immigration, it will still keep money here, almost like a boost in tourism. (Just waiting for the unilateral free traders to tell us that tourism is bad, and we'd be better off if everyone vacationed outside the US)
77 posted on 02/18/2004 6:34:48 PM PST by sixmil
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To: JimRed
That means that if I wish to use wire transfer to pay for goods or sevices obtained from a foreign country, I have to prove who I am? I'm not real fond of that idea.

We do it all the time, without a hassle.

Whether we use PayPal or BidPay or even our credit card US citizens "wire transfer" internationally frequently when purchasing on eBay. I do so about 2 to 3 times per year.

Of course I have to prove who I am to qualify for a credit card but its not that big a hassle.

78 posted on 02/18/2004 6:35:20 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Floratina
I'm in CA too, and asking for papers wouldn't help, because all the illegals have false documents (for sale on street corners). They're going to have to go for the employers who hire slave labor and stop the welfare state for illegals. If jobs dry up and they can't collect all the freebies, maybe they'll head for home.
79 posted on 02/18/2004 6:55:13 PM PST by janetgreen (WANTED: A President Who Will Enforce Immigration Laws)
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To: TatooChick
How about attaching the assets of the Wal-Mart's that PAY the illegals. Lets just sell off the all the car wash's & grab the homes of people that employ landscapers. More money in that
Kaloogian is a digit
80 posted on 02/18/2004 7:12:17 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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