4th & 5th Amendment -- Citizen refusal to produce ID --- heard by U.S. Supreme Court "video"

Public Defender of Wyoming ^ | 2.17.2004 | Bill Scannell

[Cultural Jihad]

When all else fails you can always vote from the roof top.

Ah, the Salon Bolsheviki is more than willing to encourage other people to do that which they themselves do not have the courage of their own convictions to do.

[eno_]

You still have not told us what you would do if it had been your daughter.

"Yes, that man has no dick."

[AppyPappy]

The only thing CF farms is people to roll before the judge. Looks like he has a good crop here.

[AppyPappy]

Nothing braver than a man behind a keyboard.

[eno_]

Never said I was brave. I just expect that I would be effective.

[AppyPappy]

Probably not. Just another squirrel.

[Arpege92]

The police are dispatched to a domestic disturbance which happen to be some of the most dangerous calls a police officer can respond to. Upon arriving on the scene, the police officer has no choice but to investigate this incident and part of that investigation is getting some information on the two parties involved. The man had already made up his mind from the beginning to not cooperate with the police officer and refused to show him any kind of ID. I think the police officer showed great restraint and he absolutely treated this guy with respect.

To top it off, the daughter is heard telling the cops that she and her father did infact get into a fight.

[eno_]

So, same question to you: If it had been your daughter, what would you do?

Grovel?

[tracer]

I've viewed a few training videos made in and around Washington, DC. Included in the footage were opinions given by patrolmen, police captains, DAs, defense attorneys (including PDs), judges, etc.

The level of disagreement re: what was "right and wrong" was scary.

The moral of the story is to use your head, be cool, be polite, and choose your forum. And to remember that the street is not a forum wherein it is likely we as citizens will win the day.......

[archy]

the same FR cop killers would be whining about the ineffectiveness of the police.

My oath to the constitution of the U.S. is to protect it against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

I don't recall the words except crooked cops being in there anywhere.

[RightWhale]

Probably many have had this happen: I wrote a personal check for merchandise at a local retailer and was surprised to find the check in the bag along with the receipt when I got home. It had been voided, thoroughly on both sides, and the funds had been electronically transferred from the account number printed on the check. This seems like a short step away from having a bar code printed on ones forehead.

[Arpege92]

Crooked cops? What in the world did these two cops gain from this incident....absolutely nothing but a pile of reports to fill out.

[AppyPappy]

My daughter was raised better than that. She knows better than to hang around paranoid nuts.

[tracer]

"....leads me to believe he might be a fed trolling for some stooges."

You give the feds too much credit re: creativity and spare time.... 8~)

[archy]

When all else fails you can always vote from the roof top. What's that mean?

It means that if You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.

[archy]

Crooked cops? What in the world did these two cops gain from this incident....absolutely nothing but a pile of reports to fill out.

In that they've perjured their oaths to the constitution, they've wrongfully taken their salaries. They steal tax dollars under color of the law. And under existing federal law, they're looking at a possible 10 years making combat boots and duffel bags, or even a possible death penalty.

[archy]

Ah, the Salon Bolsheviki is more than willing to encourage other people to do that which they themselves do not have the courage of their own convictions to do.

I call that bold words for a one eyed fat man.

[varon]

BUMP

[archy]

You give the feds too much credit re: creativity and spare time.... 8~)

Unless someone has a farm or house they want, or a car nicer than most feds have.

[eno_]

So you are saying there was something defective about how the woman in the video was brought up? Would you tell that to her parents?

The fact is, YOUR daughter or son is in danger of having that happen to them.

What would you do?