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To: EastIdaho
I just thought of something, maybe Kerry was sent home early because they wanted to get rid of him. Give him his 3 purple hearts and send him home. In other words he was fired. Maybe thats why he took up his anti war stance, to get back at them.

I believe the Swift Boat Veterans have said that's exactly why he was made aware of the "three hearts and your out" rule. But, I believe I have read that he was anti-war before he even enlisted.
131 posted on 08/03/2004 9:50:11 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: EastIdaho

Sorry, didn't see this was a bumped thread. Six months has given us a lot more information.


132 posted on 08/03/2004 9:55:59 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: Rastus; EastIdaho
Was Kerry anti-war before he enlisted?

Nothing extreme, if he was.

BUT, while in Vietnam for his 120-day-tour, Kerry found time to attend at least three "protest/complaint meetings" in Saigon with Adm Zumwalt and General Abrams where he DID protest the war to the commanders, and complain about how it was being run!

The seeds (lies) and propaganda of Winter Soldier were, no doubt, begun between these people who were gathered protesting in Saigon.
133 posted on 08/04/2004 5:34:05 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly ... But Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS press corpse lies every day.)
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To: Rastus
This from another thread on Swift boats ...

In Wright’s view, it was important that the enemy understood that Swift boats were a competent, effective force that could dominate his location. To do that, you also had to control the people and their actions; to have them accept Swift boat crews and their authority. You couldn’t achieve that by indiscriminate use of weapons in free fire zones.

It got to a point where Wright told his divisional commander he no longer wanted Kerry in his boat group, so he was re-assigned to another one. “I had an idea of his actions but didn’t have to be responsible for him.” Then Wright and like-minded boat officers took matters into their own hands. “When he got his third Purple Heart, three of us told him to leave. We knew how the system worked and we didn’t want him in Coastal Division 11. Kerry didn’t manipulate the system, we did.”

As for medals, Commander Wright holds strong views: “No one was recognized for completely overwhelming the enemy with skill, courage and bravery. No one wanted a Purple Heart because it meant we had made a mistake. We made sure our crews were recognized, but no one took pride in a Purple Heart. Everyone who served is equally important, regardless of rank or awards.

John B. Dwyer is a military historian, and Vietnam veteran, who served in the Fourth Infantry Division

John B. Dwyer

Your reference, "I just thought of something, maybe Kerry was sent home early because they wanted to get rid of him. ... is certainly true, according to this author.

134 posted on 08/04/2004 5:45:30 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly ... But Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS press corpse lies every day.)
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