[Bobibutu]

"You will NEVER hear a real HERO talk about HIMSELF at the drop of a hat."

You are right - you must tease or grind it out of them. They for the most part do not consider themselves "hero" - they just did what had to be done in the moment - as any competent person would.

Some relatives have a few medals from WWII and Korea - pulling teeth to get the stories and even then they play down their part.

Kerry - your opportunism and puffed up chest gives you away to anyone knowledgable.

[Bobibutu]

knowledgable = knowledgeable