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To: Between the Lines
Actually I was taught that there were never any blacks in the KKK nor were there any blacks belonging to the red-shirts. Today, I find out not only were there blacks in the KKK but in Rock Hill...

My education must have been really bad. I never learned a thing about Rock Hill. ;~))

If the deaths of 2,518 blacks in the south is important enough to have whole chapters dedicated to the subject in history books, then the death of 20,000+ blacks outside of the south during the same period would be of even greater importance. Yet this fact in history is blatantly missing from the history books.

20,000? I'd like to see that source. That number seems wildly inflated to me. But your point is taken that the lynchings have generated more history. Partly, however, that is justifiable. First of all, not all lynchings were in the "south" although the majority were. Secondly, lynchings, unlike "race riots" (which occurred in both the north and south) typically required the cooperation of state and local law enforcement. They were typically not simple mob actions but a form of organized and tacitly sanctioned actions designed specifically to intimidate a class of citizens. Local and state law enforcement usually protected instead of prosecuting the offenders. That makes them a more serious violation of rights than drunken mobs clashing in the streets.

I also see that you immediately reverted to the poor picked on south defense by saying that the north is just as bad. You don't have an argument from me, but pointing to the historical sins of one side does nothing to lesson the sins of the other. Be as proud as you like of your state or region, but learn to accept that not all of the history is honorable.

24 posted on 02/16/2004 1:35:52 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Ditto
20,000? I'd like to see that source. That number seems wildly inflated to me.

It probably is wildly inflated, I find most history written by any side of the issue prone to exaggeration. I got it from some black holocaust web sites but then I got the number of lynchings there also. Here is one of these sites: http://www.blackwallstreet.freeservers.com/

Race riots (which occurred mostly in the north) unlike lynchings, usually required the cooperation of state and local law enforcement. They were typically not simple mob actions but a form of organized and tacitly sanctioned actions designed specifically to intimidate a class of citizens. Local state and even federal law enforcement usually protected instead of prosecuting the offenders, even the US congress has sealed documents to prevent the knowledge of these atrocities from reaching the public (ie the East Saint Louis Riots). That makes them a much more serious violation of rights than drunken lynch mobs accosting the occasional black man.

I also see that you immediately reverted to the poor picked on south defense by saying that the north is just as bad.

No, I did not mean to insinuate that the the north was just as bad as the south. In the south all the sins are laid open to see in the history books, yet in the north everything is a secret, so the north is much worse in that they are so hypocritical.

26 posted on 02/16/2004 2:58:26 PM PST by Between the Lines
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To: Ditto
Black people got the screws put to them no matter where they lived.
30 posted on 02/16/2004 3:45:12 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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