[Hostage]

This is all well and good and needs to be done. The part that is objectionable is the legalization process and provisions for illegals.

The President is trying to push through a stealth amnesty program under the guise of a much needed security proposal.

He may not view it as such but you can believe that the Mexican government views it as such, only they want more and they will get it if these types of policies continue.

The President has been sold on a technological solution, eyescans, fingerprinting databases, etc. That's good for Visa applicants but it's not good for border jumpers and social service parasites. The 14th Amendment will continue to work in favor of the illegal invasion as will family reunification laws.

And the notion that all will be processed equally under one security umbrella is also a mistake. Incompetance is the norm for lower levels of state government. Intentional incompetence in the form of not meeting federal requirements keeping in mind they are unionized unlike the federal government's Homeland Security.

State governments will continue to dole out subsistence, health and educational benefits to those that are not in the country legally. Despite their budgetary problems, they are adept at passing all manner of tax adjustments to fill gaps and they will target federal matching funds at every opportunity.

Visa applicants and most border jumpers are significantly different in their approach to American governments.

We would not be having this discussion if the number of illegal persons was one million versus twelve million. It is not necessarily the problem of illegal border crossing as it is the magnitude of that problem which concerns so many.

[Porterville]

We would not be having this discussion if the number of illegal persons was one million versus twelve million. It is not necessarily the problem of illegal border crossing as it is the magnitude of that problem which concerns so many.

Exactly, 12 million is a very big number that has to be dealt with effectively, with strategy, not with some garbled nonsense about finding 12 million unknown/unregistered illegals and throwing them in a van back home... way to many.