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Most distant known object in universe discovered
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | February 15, 2004 | Andrew Bridges

Posted on 02/15/2004 1:42:33 PM PST by concentric circles

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To: concentric circles
...a team of astrophysicists announced Sunday they have spied a tiny galaxy that is the most farthest known object.

I guess that means that this thing is beyond the farthest know object. That must be really far. But if it is beyond the farthest know object, how do they know it exits?

21 posted on 02/15/2004 3:41:16 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: RadioAstronomer; Physicist; longshadow
From the article:
The team was less confident about the precise redshift they had measured, estimating it as between 6.6 and 7, Ellis said. Any value in the range would still place the galaxy as the farthest known object, he added.

How fast would that be traveling, with respect to us?

22 posted on 02/15/2004 4:03:34 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: concentric circles
NASA has aborted a service/upgrade mission to Hubbell, even though it's already paid for and the parts are ready!

http://hubble.stsci.edu/newscenter/newsdesk/future/

There's a petition link within the article....
23 posted on 02/15/2004 4:12:34 PM PST by Solamente
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To: Revelation 911; Alamo-Girl; P-Marlowe; Corin Stormhands
I have trouble figuring my income tax.

Maybe we can get astronomers to figure that one out.
24 posted on 02/15/2004 4:14:18 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of it!!)
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To: PatrickHenry; ThinkPlease
How fast would that be traveling, with respect to us?

I don't know the formula to convert redshift to recessional velocity offhand, but at a value of z = 7.0, it's more than 90% of "c" for sure.....

25 posted on 02/15/2004 5:48:32 PM PST by longshadow
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To: PatrickHenry
How fast would that be traveling, with respect to us?

Found it.....

v/c = [(z+1)^2 - 1]/[(z+1)^2 + 1]

for z = 7.0. that's equivalent to v/c= 97% of the speed of light.

26 posted on 02/15/2004 6:18:47 PM PST by longshadow
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To: longshadow
They will never tell me that is all uninhabited.
27 posted on 02/15/2004 6:22:49 PM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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To: longshadow
... 97% of the speed of light.

Thanks.

28 posted on 02/15/2004 6:23:50 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: shaggy eel
Shaggy...they're on to us.

Activate Plan-C.

Repeat...Activate Plan-C....
29 posted on 02/15/2004 6:31:02 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("You cannot be a victim AND a hero." - Hon. Clarence Thomas)
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To: concentric circles
Amazing.

Astronomy makes my head explode.
If I could do simple physics and advanced algebra, I would have been an astronomer.

Imagine doing this for a living. Nothing could be more cool.
30 posted on 02/15/2004 6:33:13 PM PST by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: Cobra64
Damn, you beat me to it.
31 posted on 02/15/2004 6:35:27 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: PoorMuttly
,,, when you wish upon a star it makes no difference who you are.
32 posted on 02/15/2004 6:39:58 PM PST by shaggy eel
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"Peering back in time to when the universe was just 750 million years old, ... roughly 13 billion light-years from Earth."

Some of the latest estimates (UCLA) place the age of the universe at 13 to 14 billion years.

(developed from the age of the chemical elements, oldest star clusters, and the age of the oldest white dwarf stars).

So, the time-and-distance data in this article is roughly consistent.
33 posted on 02/15/2004 6:39:59 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: concentric circles
Forget the most distant object! What the hell is that giant white ring! It could only be made by an intelligent species.
34 posted on 02/15/2004 6:40:07 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: concentric circles
I enjoy these stories and threads as much as anyone.However,isn't this a potentially fleeting title,if not just plain bogus.I mean,there was a different "farthest KNOWN object " before this one,and it probably won't be the last.
35 posted on 02/15/2004 6:44:09 PM PST by John W
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To: shaggy eel
...better find a spot beyond it..I guess...as usual.

Why can't they leave us alone ?!

Where's a feller s'posed to hide his stuff these days ?!

Maybe the Martians are right...if they finally get there...dismantle their stuff...but let some of it drive around in circles on your vacant movie set.
36 posted on 02/15/2004 6:57:50 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("You cannot be a victim AND a hero." - Hon. Clarence Thomas)
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To: concentric circles
What a beautiful picture.

God's handywork is amazing.
37 posted on 02/15/2004 7:05:51 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (It's not over till the intern sings)
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To: PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer
Thanks.

No charge..... but there will be a pop quiz tomorrow!

BTW, there is no value of z (redshift) for which the recessional velocity is equal to "c." That's because if the emitter were receding from us at v=c, the redshift would be infinite, and the photons would have no wavelength at all! Basically, we can't see anything that's receding that fast (or faster). That's what defines the limit of the visible Universe, the space inside of that limit is known as the Hubble volume.

So, in the limit, as z -> infinity, v -> c.

38 posted on 02/15/2004 7:22:32 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Lee'sGhost
"...white ring..."

The gravity from the cluster warps the light from galaxies located behind the cluster. They end up looking like arcs of light. Numerous galaxies beyond the cluster results in numerous arcs and the appearance of a ring.

As Lincoln said, "I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God."

39 posted on 02/15/2004 7:24:36 PM PST by concentric circles (Good government starts in the voting booth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Know anything about the small blue image in the approximate center of the image?

Noticed and was wondering about that object myself. Structurally it appears that it could be two galaxies in collision. But why does it appear so blue? It appears too small to be a foreground object the size of galaxies. If at the distance of the galaxy cluster and appearing that color, it would be in the ultraviolet portion of the spectrum if it were nearby. Curious object.

Another thought: if it is two galaxies in collision, there may be a a burst of star formation activity taking place. Young, massive stars are extremely hot, emitting blue and violet light.

40 posted on 02/15/2004 8:06:35 PM PST by ngc6656 (Freepaholics Anonymous advisory: Don't freep and drive.)
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