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To: Redcoat LI
The homosexuals and their enablers stayed on message throughout - it was ``a civil-rights issue.''

And this approach is winning, because the other side has nothing except "let's let the people decide." Seems pretty weak in comparison. Few of those who oppose homosexual "marriage" can bring themselves to call it unnatural, perhaps because they're afraid of alienating a constituency, but more likely because they're incapable of promoting that argument. In fact, most legislators are in the camp of one lawyer/legislator who I heard say, "I still don't know what 'natural law' is." Sad but true.

6 posted on 02/16/2004 4:58:30 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
And the whole mess seems a subversion of Article III of the
Mass. State Constitution which mentions civil government ,and the happiness of the people--which led directly to the Northwest Ordinance (Article III) -for the
invalid mandate of the Mass.SJC rejects what is found in
the Law of Moses-affirmed by Christ-and by the Apostle Paul
and even recognized by the Federal court in Murphy v.Ramsey.Marriage is to consist in and spring from the
"union for life of one man and onewomanin the Holy estate of matrimony."How cruel that these unjust Judges use the
guise of Law to destroy us all.
7 posted on 02/16/2004 5:24:13 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: Aquinasfan
The idea that this is a civil rights issue is attractive to many, but flat wrong, and it is wrong even without reference to "natural law." That is lucky for our side, because the counter that homosexual behavior is sinful is not going to win the day. My advice to Christian conservatives is, even though you believe acts of sodomy are sinful, unhealthy, immoral, what-have-you ... for political effectiveness, defend one-man, one-woman marriage as the boon to civilization that it is.

The fact is, most people in our culture who are no longer practicing Christians (or Jews) have nonetheless internalized the principles that define the way of life that has made us so successful. Many of us (for I am one of these) truly extol devotion to marriage and family without understanding the word "sacrament."

The opposition knows that, due to the fading influence of the church, we are now dealing with a "softer" form of tradition. It has been removed from theology, and they argue (and believe) that devotion to marriage and family is just as available to gay couples.

But from a purely cold, calculated public policy perspective, it is nonsense. How many gay couples are going to produce healthy booming families, that pass their family-producing practices down through generations? Almost none. So all that remains is that they are selfish. They want what others have. Well, the government doesn't exist to protect the feelings of those who are different. It exists, in great part, to preserve institutions like the rule of law. "Gay marriage" is only a distraction from this purpose.

8 posted on 02/16/2004 6:09:12 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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