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The 'trust us' initiative(CA PROPOSITION 56)
The Orange County Register ^ | 2/15/2004 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 02/15/2004 4:45:13 AM PST by kellynla

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:06:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Proposition 56 would make it a lot easier for the Legislature to pass a budget and raise taxes. They dare call it 'accountability.'

Those Californians who agree with the Democratic premise that government should spend more dollars on every imaginable program, that efforts to balance the budget by slowing spending are heartless, and that taxes aren't nearly as high as they should be, have a chance to put their money where their mouths are on March 2.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; prop56; proposition56; putuporshutup; taxes
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1 posted on 02/15/2004 4:45:14 AM PST by kellynla
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To: starsandstrips; Rabid Dog; summer; Jim Robinson; Salvation; jam137; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
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2 posted on 02/15/2004 4:48:22 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: risk; calcowgirl
Ping! calcowgirl, I figured you would especially be interested in this editorial.
3 posted on 02/15/2004 4:55:15 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla; farmfriend
The TV spot I've seen against this has a beautiful gal explaining in no uncertain terms why this is a bad idea.
4 posted on 02/15/2004 5:07:19 AM PST by risk
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To: kellynla
We have our work cut for us. The tax and spend lobby is well financed but they can only win if they're allowed to get away with misrepresenting the real deal in Proposition 56. The public needs to be reminded behind all the good government fluff, its actually a scheme to make it easier to raise your taxes.
5 posted on 02/15/2004 5:13:09 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kellynla
"...But that's the problem for special-interest groups that reap great rewards when government gets bigger. Public employee unions, who always want more generous pay and benefits..."

Outsourcing is one result - nation wide.

6 posted on 02/15/2004 5:18:43 AM PST by yoe (WMD come in small containers/vials...small minds don't want you to know that.)
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To: goldstategop
Oh I have been giving the thought of a "no state income tax referendum" a lot of thought lately for November. If they don't have it they can't spend it. And if TX & FL can operate without a state income tax there is no reason why CA can't. The problem with these propositions is that they are coming up on a 'Rat primary instead of a general election so there probably won't be as many GOPer's voting as 'Rats.
7 posted on 02/15/2004 5:32:25 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: yoe
"Outsourcing is one result - nation wide."
I agree. I haven't given this a lot of thought but I realize that the illegal immigration problem is pulling the wages in general for unskilled labor and hence people who have lost jobs are forced to take lower paying jobs. There just might be something to duties on imports to...And I think it's about time for manufacturers to start looking to America as a source for "the best quality" in goods similar to what people think of Italian suits and German & Italian automobiles. I mean it wasn't too long ago that Cadillacs & Duesenbergs were the finest automobiles in the world. Bring back the quality and craftsmanship and you bring back high paying jobs to America.
8 posted on 02/15/2004 5:41:41 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
If someone like Gray Davis or Bill Lockyer or Phil Angelides were governor, any time the Legislature overspends, the governor would sign the bill and your taxes would go up. All spending restraint would be gone. Even anti-tax Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger would have a hard time saying no to everything that would come his way.

It would cause open class warfare, recession, and perhaps street violence, but perhaps at last people would get rid of the Democrats. Sometimes I wonder if it would be worth it.

9 posted on 02/15/2004 7:18:53 AM PST by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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To: kellynla; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; onyx; Carry_Okie
Polls show that the public is confused on Prop. 56, thanks to a deceptive advertising campaign by unions, who purposefully emphasize the popular limitations on legislators' pay. The Public Policy Institute of California shows 41 percent of voters supporting it, and 35 percent opposing it. Taxpayer advocacy groups are worried. The unions have an enormous amount of money and energy to devote to an initiative that will mean more money for them.

Their ads FOR 56 are very deceptive!!!

But someone is running an EXCELLENT counter ad !

10 posted on 02/15/2004 7:55:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: kellynla
I am amazed at how many younger people have bought this bs.

We have to get the word out re who are the real sponsors of this higher tax Trojan Horse, like the labor unions and every welfare pushing ngo in California.
11 posted on 02/15/2004 7:59:31 AM PST by Grampa Dave (John F' Kerry! You are not John F. Kennedy! You're just another $oreA$$ puppet.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I've seen two anti-56 ads so far (one man, one woman) over the past few days.

Hooray for the good guys.

No on 56

No a la 56

12 posted on 02/15/2004 8:34:11 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (I am serious and stop calling me Shirley!)
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To: kellynla
excellent!
13 posted on 02/15/2004 10:17:23 AM PST by calcowgirl (No on Propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: kellynla
I'm voting no on all the Props.
14 posted on 02/15/2004 11:01:34 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bottom line: if it's a bond issue I vote "NO"...
15 posted on 02/15/2004 11:04:02 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
"I'm voting no on all the Props." Ditto!
16 posted on 02/15/2004 11:05:08 AM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The props are all getting my "NO" vote too.
17 posted on 02/15/2004 11:25:53 AM PST by janetgreen (PRESIDENT BUSH: PROTECT AMERICA'S BORDERS!!)
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To: kellynla
Polls show that the public is confused on Prop. 56,

I contacted the "No on 56" folks and asked why I hadn't seen any ads representing their side and I received an email that they didn't have enough money to run many ads. They are being outspent by the unions. So I was asked to please pass on the truth about proposition 56.

Folks, NO ON 56 needs your help to succeed. Please pass on this website and tell folks they need to know the truth. Please help to get the word out there.

http://www.noblankchecks.com/


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18 posted on 02/15/2004 11:52:33 AM PST by hotpotato
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To: hotpotato
You're preaching to the choir. LOL That's why I have been posting as much as I can find, as often as I can.
19 posted on 02/15/2004 12:33:09 PM PST by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. 1969 &70 U.S.M.C. Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
Same here. I thought I'd include the fact that the opponents of 56 have little money to get the word out. They need everyone's help.
20 posted on 02/15/2004 12:47:33 PM PST by hotpotato
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