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To: Terry Mross
When, like a liberal, you tell me what YOU think I should believe, that is an attack.

Correcting errors is an "attack"?

Again, the idea that "The Jews" killed Jesus, got him killed, made the decision to get him killed, etc., is not just a "belief", it's logically incoherent. "The Jews" CANNOT engage in a specific action which is localized at some particular time; some Jews can, but not "The Jews". It literally makes no sense to say this.

At times you seemed to demonstrate understanding of this by backing away from the phrasing, yet still seemed to feel the need to cling to some statement casting some blame in The Jews' direction. ("but their leaders were there..", which even if true proves WHAT exactly?)

But in your #146 you revert back to the original phrasing: ""The Jews". Yeah, I said THE Jews."

As long as you cling to this asinine error, don't expect not to be corrected on it. (Particularly given the history of Jews being persecuted based on just this illogic.)

I respect genuine good-faith beliefs (like that the Sanhedrin 2000 years ago delivered Jesus to the Romans because God caused them to - that's a belief and I would never "argue" with it). The problem is when someone says something nonsensical like that "The Jews" got Jesus killed, and tries to shield it from criticism by calling it a "belief". I don't have to respect this any more than I'd respect the "belief" that 2+2=5.

160 posted on 02/17/2004 9:10:16 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan
When I say "the Jews" and am talking about 2,000 years ago and you think I'm talking about Jews today, you're the one who is saying something that is "assinine". If I say "the Slaves" do you think I'm talking about modern day black people? You're nitpicking because you obviously want to argue. The Gospels, in MY OPPINION, state unequivocally that the "Jews", "as was their custom", made THE decision. Can you argue that as fact? No. But, some, including me, believe it on "faith". Did the "Jews" yell, "Give us Barrabas!"? No. They didn't speak English.
161 posted on 02/17/2004 9:34:59 AM PST by Terry Mross
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