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To: Mr. Silverback
Who killed Jesus? To set the record straight:

Matthew Ch. 27 V. 25
Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

16 posted on 02/13/2004 12:13:06 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud
Matthew Ch. 27 V. 25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

That's the people's words, not God's words. The Kenites killed Jesus, not the seed of Judah.

24 posted on 02/13/2004 12:34:07 PM PST by #3Fan (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1073931/posts)
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To: azhenfud
St. Augustine: "Judaism, since Christ, is a corruption; indeed, Judas is the image of the Jewish people: their understanding of Scripture is carnal; they bear the guilt for the death of the Saviour, for through their fathers they have killed Christ."
32 posted on 02/13/2004 12:49:52 PM PST by Francisco
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To: azhenfud
Saint John Chrysostom
Since there are some who think of the synagogue as a holy place, I must say a few words to them. Why do you reverence that place? Must you not despise it, hold it in abomination, run away from it? They answer that the Law and the books of the prophets are kept there. What is this? Will any place where these books are be a holy place? By no means! This is the reason above all others why I hate the synagogue and abhor it. They have the prophets but not believe them; they read the sacred writings but reject their witness-and this is a mark of men guilty of the greatest outrage.

Tell me this. If you were to see a venerable man, illustrious and renowned, dragged off into a tavern or den of robbers; if you were to see him outraged, beaten, and subjected there to the worst violence, would you have held that tavern or den in high esteem because that great and esteemed man had been inside it while undergoing that violent treatment? I think not. Rather, for this very reason you would have hated and abhorred the place.

Let that be your judgment about the synagogue, too. For they brought the books of Moses and the prophets along with them into the synagogue, not to honor them but to outrage them with dishonor. When they say that Moses and the prophets knew not Christ and said nothing about his coming, what greater outrage could they do to those holy men than to accuse them of failing to recognize their Master, than to say that those saintly prophets are partners of their impiety? And so it is that we must hate both them and their synagogue all the more because of their offensive treatment of those holy men.

Why do I speak about the books and the synagogues? In time of persecution, the public executioners lay hold of the bodies of the martyrs, they scourge them, and tear them to pieces. Does it make the executioners' hands holy because they lay hold of the body of holy men? Heaven forbid! The hands which grasped and held the bodies of the holy ones still stay unholy. Why? Because those executioners did a wicked thing when they laid their hands upon the holy. And will those who handle and outrage the writings of the holy ones be any more venerable for this than those who executed the martyrs? Would that not be the ultimate foolishness? If the maltreated bodies of the martyrs do not sanctify those who maltreated them but even add to their blood-guilt, much less could the Scriptures, if read without belief, ever help those who read without believing. The very act of deliberately choosing to maltreat the Scriptures convicts them of greater godlessness.

If they did not have the prophets, they would not deserve such punishment; if they had not read the sacred books, they would not be so unclean and so unholy. But, as it is, they have been stripped of all excuse. They do have the heralds of the truth but, with hostile heart, they set themselves against the prophets and the truth they speak. So it is for this reason that they would be all the more profane and blood-guilty: they have the prophets, but they treat them with hostile hearts.

49 posted on 02/13/2004 1:26:30 PM PST by Francisco
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To: azhenfud
Thus exonerating the Roman's. For the Jews knew precisely what they were doing and their punishment is not yet complete according to scripture, but Christ said of the Roman's "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do". Nevertheless we all are the cause and beneficiaries, of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten Son of God.
56 posted on 02/13/2004 1:38:01 PM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: azhenfud
what 3 other guys have to say

Matthew 20:19
And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him:

Mark 10:33-34
...shall deliver him to the Gentiles: And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him:

Luke 18:32-33
For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death:


We can all agree, thank God Jesus did what he did!
96 posted on 02/13/2004 7:52:26 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Abortion is the law of the land. Remind me - what was the number on that bill in congress?)
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