Comparing homosexual marriage to inter-racial marriage

vanity | 13 Feb 04 | Linda Martinez

[Agnes Heep]

As far as I know, interracial marriage wasn't shoved down the public's throat by an overbearing judiciary. The vast majority of people either accepted it or ignored it, primarily because no one could see any logical reason against it--the only possible objections pertained to the very small and superficial differences that are the hallmarks of race.

[FormerLib]

Exactly! If the judiciary attempts to do this, then the judiciary will need to be replaced.

[mhking]

While it is easy to take offense to the comparison (as Rush did), there is some truthfulness in it.

Bull.

There are cultural issues in interracial marriages (I speak from first-hand experience in relating to my sister and her husband), but they do NOT compare to same-gendered relationships in any way, shape or form.

While I don't like the idea of amending the Constitution (I think this is better left to the states), this is an issue that won't go away.

There are too many leftists who fall into the trap of trying to compare those relationships and the percieved "discrimination" with them to the very real discrimination that I have faced in my past as a black man. It is insulting at best to make the comparison.

If two guys (or girls for that matter), wanna get up close and personal, that's their business (and better left behind their closed doors). But I'm not going to pretend to want to sanction it just to satisfy the liberals' misbegotten sense of self-guilt.

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[FormerLib]

And acceptance of inter-racial marriage was done via the legislative process with this tiny group of rabble-rousers know they cannot do.

Clearly, they have a problem with our Republic and wish to bring it down.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"...they use the force of the federal government to force it."

So your solution to this is trusting the Federal government?

And you don't see what's wrong with that picture?

The Federal government promised to "fix" the high price of Cable television, it's gone up immensely since they got involved.

The Federal government promised to fix the high cost of airline travel once, it wasn't until they left the airlines alone that pricing dropped precipitously.

Did the number of abortions in the US go up or down since the Feds got involved in the issue?

Haven't you wondered why the gay rights lobby is not fighting you tooth and nail on this idea of a Constitutional Amendment?

Because they understand that a Constitutional Amendment will take years to get to vote, and by then, they'll have won the war at the State level.

Once you have a million married gay couples in the US, the fight is over.

Quit looking to the Feds to help, and batten down the hatched in your State.

[tdadams]

People cannot help the skin color with which they are born....but they have a choice on taking up homosexual behavior and lifestyle.

Your whole argument hinges on your belief that homosexuality is a behavior and not an innate characteristic. This is something that cannot be proven one way or another and to pretend it can be is dishonest.

it is very interesting that NO proof exists of anything inherited causing homosexual "urges"

There is no gene that causes someone to be left handed. Is that also just a behavior?

thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle through therapy

Conversion therapy is a joke. Without exception, every medical and scientific organization has condemned it as either ineffective or actually harmful. There may be some homosexuals who can act heterosexual (for a while or forever) but it doesn't change who they are.

[Luis Gonzalez]

If you're making the argument that conservatives have never divorced, cohabitated, cheated on their spouses, or had sex outside of marriage it's you with a reality problem, not me.

[FormerLib]

When were you told that maintaining the Republic would be easy?

I never said that. I'm the one who will be defending the Republic and the moral foundations of our society that allows it to exist!

[beelzepug]

"There is no comparison."

Of course there isn't. Whether you approve or disapprove of inter-racial marriage, the fact remains that you are still dealing with a male and a female, the necessary body parts are compatible, and each produces what it needs to produce to make a baby. If your Basset Hound and the neighbor's German Shepard get chummy they'll still produce a puppy. If your son and your neighbor's son get together, well, don't waste your money buying any "Ask me about my grandchildren" bumper stickers. This isn't real complicated stuff here.

[FormerLib]

If you're making the argument that conservatives have never divorced, cohabitated, cheated on their spouses, or had sex outside of marriage it's you with a reality problem, not me.

If you're making the argument that it is more important to define people as conservatives solely because they claim to be while conducting themselves as morally-deprived (and depraved!) leftists, then you have a reality problem equal to the candidates for the nomination of the Democratic Party!

[truthingod]

You are so wrong! I know several people who left the homo lifestyle and are now married with wonderful families. Homesexuality is a choice. I would dare say the one bit of info that may shed light on choice is this: the Bible says the sins of a generation will visit upon the 3rd and 4th generations. So, if someone in a family has chosen this behavior then it is possible someone else will fall into the same temptation.

[jwalsh07]

It's really quite simple.

The definition of marriage is and always has been the union of one man and one woman.

That early America perverted the meaning of marriage by passing unconstitutional laws based on race is not justification for perverting the meaning of marriage now by equating one man + one woman and one man + one man.

They simply are not the same nor does one equal the other.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Immorality has alaways existed, it will not bring down the foundations of the Republic.

Legislated immorality will.

So, if you truly wish to defend THE REPUBLIC, keep the Federal government from usurping right of the State to define marriage.

By the way, there is tons of case law that backs up an exemption of the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution when it comes to marriages.

[FormerLib]

So your solution to this is trusting the Federal government?

Wrong, wrong, wrong. The solution is to prohibit the Federal government from forcing other states into recognizing another state's societal lunacy.

[Luis Gonzalez]

You made that argument, I did not.

You flatly placed all of society's problems on leftists.

Ronald Reagan was divorced...did that make him a liberal?

[FormerLib]

Boy, the pro-homo cheerleaders have come out in full force on this one!

Watch where you step! ;-)

[truthingod]

It is obvious you don't have enough facts. Many people who get caught in the homo lifestyle did so out of poor relationships with same sex parents. Many(studies do prove this) of these kids identified with the opposite parent and adopted this. People can be changed by the power in Jesus Christ--homosexuality is one of Satan's greatest weapons because it perverts and twists the very inner truth God created in everyone.

[Agnes Heep]

As far as I know, interracial marriage wasn't shoved down the public's throat by an overbearing judiciary. The vast majority of people either accepted it or ignored it, primarily because no one could see any logical reason against it--the only possible objections pertained to the very small and superficial differences that are the hallmarks of race.

[tdadams]

As far as I know, interracial marriage wasn't shoved down the public's throat by an overbearing judiciary.

And acceptance of inter-racial marriage was done via the legislative process with this tiny group of rabble-rousers know they cannot do.

I suggest you look up the 1967 Supreme Court case of Loving v. Virginia.

[Warrior Nurse]

This kind of mindless diatribe by the homosexual community is total malarkey.

I want someone to help me with this. I am pissed when the sodomites say that being homosexual is like being black facing discrimination. Since when is perversion acceptable behavior? How is homosexual "marriage" a civil right? Someone please tell me. Since time and memorial marriage has been defined as a legal covenant between a man and a woman. It is the fabric of civilized society. If the sodomites want to have a union like marriage they would have to find a spouse of the opposite sex. Since that is how marriage has been defined. To my understanding can't a sodomite couple use the legal system to will possessions and a general power of attorney for other legal decisions? Please help me out </No Sarcasm>