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To: AndrewC
This directly impacts the assertion that TTSS evolved into flagella. Evidence shows that this is probably not true.

But as I said before, that does nothing to rescue the irreducible complexity of the flagellum. Either it came from a more compact structure, or resulted in a more compact structure - but either way, that more compact structure is also functional, so long as you don't buy into this artifical constraint that only things that do X are "functional". Or, alternately, the TTSS and the flagellum are both descendents from a common ancestor structure, but that obviously belies the irreducible complexity of the flagellum by its very nature.

One could, I suppose, argue that they're both the products of special creation, appearing sui generis, independently of one another as the products of some designer. But then again, I see no evidence to support that hypothesis at the moment.

64 posted on 02/13/2004 9:39:47 AM PST by general_re (Remember that what's inside of you doesn't matter because nobody can see it.)
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To: general_re
Either it came from a more compact structure, or resulted in a more compact structure - but either way, that more compact structure is also functional, so long as you don't buy into this artifical constraint that only things that do X are "functional".

As I stated, the functionality under question is flagellar not virulence and that determines irreducibility. The argument is not whether something has any function( you can fill a balloon with water, air, or a present).

70 posted on 02/13/2004 9:57:08 AM PST by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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