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To: PhilipFreneau
Put another way, "the powers of the federal government are few and defined; the powers of the states respectively, or of the people, are virtually unlimited.

States face the same constraints as the federal government - otherwise tyranny is merely transfered not prevented.

Since you obviously do not know, conservatives believe in a limited government that also encourages traditional morality. You are not a conservative. I might be convinced to believe the libertarian part, but not from what I have heard so far.

Your ignorance is embarrassing. This why I prefaced my remark with a comment for those with intelligence and a minimum mental capacity.

Traditional morality is the responsibility of the people - not the government. A common refrain for the conservative has been "The government can not legislate morality." Morality can only be instilled by the social institutions of morality - churches and families being primary.

Once, this was an understood in conservatism. Then came the rise of authoritarian moralism - the government has a divine right to proscibe and control all behavior of the people. This is the position you have been promoting. There isn't a problem with invasive government as long as it is invading the realm of personal morality and behavior.

The refocus of no invasive government to the right kind of invasive government led to a split, the religious authoritarian and the small government period position. The religious authoritarians, when confronted by their hypocrisy in no longer desiring small government, to lash out with the unfounded lie that the old conservative position of small government period is amoral and uses libertarian as a pejorative.

Of course, this is not only a purposeful lie, it is a position of gross ignorance. Insisting that people be responsible for morals through church and family rather than government fiat is not an amoral position. Somehow, that seems to be an incomprehensible thought to those that believe people must be controlled for them to behave. Those who believe in people more than the government must the be discredited through attack.

But then, independence is not conducive to a theocracy.

615 posted on 02/26/2004 6:40:11 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus
States face the same constraints as the federal government - otherwise tyranny is merely transfered not prevented.

You are hopeless, Ophiucus.

Traditional morality is the responsibility of the people - not the government. A common refrain for the conservative has been "The government can not legislate morality." Morality can only be instilled by the social institutions of morality - churches and families being primary.

In an absolutely perfect world, maybe. But in the real world a government that does not encourage Christianity, in fact, opposes it. This pattern we have seen emerge over the last 50 years, or so. Now everything has been turned upside down. A government that should be encouraging Christianity is now blatantly anti-Christ, at least within the judical branch, and they are the ultimate rulers in this bizarre form of despotism we are plagued with. I recommend you read Joseph Story's Commentaries.

Somehow, that seems to be an incomprehensible thought to those that believe people must be controlled for them to behave.

Story could help you "escape" from your fairy-tale land, but it is obvious you think you know more than he does.

617 posted on 02/26/2004 7:09:41 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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