[Cold Heat]

I have been looking into this issue for some three or four years now.

The Bush proposal, (and that is all it is) has some things in it that seem to be totally lost on the opponents. This fact was brought up at the hearing yesterday.

The Bush proposal controls the numbers by linking it to demand. It also controls the currently un-controlled employers.

All attempts to control the employer have failed up to now. This proposal does it via the interview. It collects information on the employer from the applicant. That info can then be data based for IRS to access.

My feeling is that it will indeed act as a limiting factor on the total number of jobs available and therefore control the previously uncontrollable influx of job seekers.

This is the heart of the idea. Not amnesty.

[Joe Hadenuf]

You are really not worth responding to. Anyone with a brain, and not a political agenda can see this is just continued amnesty. It's been amnesty for 25 years. Bush's plan is a scheme, and most see it for what it is. You are not fooling anyone.

[citizen]

The Bush proposal controls the numbers by linking it to demand. It also controls the currently un-controlled employers.

All attempts to control the employer have failed up to now. This proposal does it via the interview. It collects information on the employer from the applicant. That info can then be data based for IRS to access.

Empolyers out-of-control: Yes. Also no. From what I read, regarding the current situation, an employer inclined to check the proffered papers of an applicant will come under great pressure and threat of lawsuits by action groups if the employer denies employment while attempting to verify the data provided by an applicant. Very dicey in practice. Plus many empolyers care nothing for the laws and regulations, they only want the cheap labor.

We need more info here: Define 'interview'

Define 'information on the employer'

Define 'applicant'

An IRS database? Touting such will likely not help your argument here or in any forum.

We know the current sorry state of the enforcement of laws against the hiring illegals. When the pro-immigration lobbyists, the business lobyists, special interest groups of varying spectrums, the liberals, the Dimocrats and RINOs, and the PC press gets through molding these legislative works, well, I'm not at all hopefull of meaningful immigration control being enacted.

It's sort of like what they say RE campaign finance control: Immigrants will find a way into the country.

The Presidency is the bully pulpit: Did Bush ask for more or less immigration? Bush has laid down his guidelines: Pretty much an open border policy, guzzied up with fanciful language.