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A Grand Strategy Of Transformation
foreignpolicy.com ^ | December 1, 2002 | John Lewis Gaddis

Posted on 02/12/2004 5:37:47 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez

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To: edwin hubble
"George Bush .... implementing one of the only three grand strategies of American foreign policy in our two-century history."

Grand strategy it is.

21 posted on 02/12/2004 6:53:36 PM PST by nuconvert ("Why do you have to be a nonconformist like everybody else?")
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The process of neutralizing and eventually converting moderates into radicals is simple and fool-proof:

First you terrorize your opponents into silence so that your movement appears to have no opposition. This gives you tremendous power, not only because moderates quietly feel they are alone in their disagreement with you, but also because the ignorant media – especially the foreign media – casts you as the choice of the people. Having succeeded in silencing moderates, the next step is terrorizing them into cooperating with you. Soon passive cooperation is not enough. You want more than their body – you want their soul, so you terrorize the moderates into being "passionate" in your cause.

In the end, your movement appears to have only loyal and active supporters. Now you are in total control, for who would dare speak out against you? As Hitler said, 10 years before he finally rose to power, "The National Socialist Movement will in the future ruthlessly prevent – if necessary by force – all meetings or lectures that are likely to distract the minds of our fellow countrymen." In other words, all opposition is evil and we will protect you from it. Sound familiar? -- Source

22 posted on 02/12/2004 6:54:10 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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23 posted on 02/12/2004 7:09:40 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Southern Federalist
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24 posted on 02/12/2004 7:11:47 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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25 posted on 02/12/2004 7:12:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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26 posted on 02/12/2004 7:12:13 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Yes, sounded familiar. ; )

What we have seen all too much is the completion of the 1st and moving into the 2nd phase, "passive cooperation",
of moderates. I do believe they are going to strike back, before phase three. We are seeing evidence of that already. Fortunately, al Qaeda's attacks against muslims are having a deleterious effect on terrorist recruitment, and inflaming the moderates into resisting and fighting back against terrorists in their midst.
27 posted on 02/12/2004 7:24:54 PM PST by nuconvert ("Why do you have to be a nonconformist like everybody else?")
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To: Luis Gonzalez

The strategies that won the Cold War—containment and deterrence—won't work against such dangers, because those strategies assumed the existence of identifiable regimes led by identifiable leaders operating by identifiable means from identifiable territories. How, though, do you contain a shadow? How do you deter someone who's prepared to commit suicide?

Timely to review the NSS in the wake of our invasion of Iraq and removal of Saddam. I wonder what Gaddis would say about his statement:

These plans depend critically, however, on our being welcomed in Baghdad if we invade, as we were in Kabul. If we aren't, the whole strategy collapses, because it's premised on the belief that ordinary Iraqis will prefer an American occupation over the current conditions in which they live. There's no evidence that the Bush administration is planning the kind of military commitments the United States made in either of the two world wars, or even in Korea and Vietnam. This strategy relies on getting cheered, not shot at.

I would hope that Gaddis would conclude that our welcome was by and large welcoming and that our presence is desired. We are getting shot at, but it is more of a continuation of the war by a small minority. I hope we have the will and commitment to stay the course. GWB has crafted one of the boldest foreign policies in the 20th century. I believe the rewards outweigh the risks. As someone who spent nearly 30 years in the foreign policy community, I applaud what he is doing. Carter, Clinton and Albright were a disaster and we are still living with the consequences of their legacy.

28 posted on 02/12/2004 7:30:39 PM PST by kabar
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That small minority on Iraq is down to murdering their own, and murdering them while they stand in line volunteering to do their part in building a new Iraq.

Agincourt is alive and well in Iraq.

29 posted on 02/12/2004 7:36:09 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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30 posted on 02/12/2004 7:38:24 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I found the article to be very complimentary to Bush's foreign policy and vision.

Indeed. I was thinkning I'd send it to my brother, who recently sent me a couple of articles from Atlantic Monthly that were not as nice nor as intelligent.

31 posted on 02/12/2004 9:11:28 PM PST by Huck (OK. I'm over it.)
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To: kabar
I would hope that Gaddis would conclude that our welcome was by and large welcoming and that our presence is desired

Did you happen to see Frontline tonight? Very interesting coverage of Iraqis and the differences from town to town. I am gonna see when its repeated.

32 posted on 02/12/2004 9:13:19 PM PST by Huck (OK. I'm over it.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The article is fascinating. Bush has charted a historical course.
33 posted on 02/12/2004 9:59:40 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Say not, 'I have found the truth,' but rather, 'I have found a truth.'--- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the ping!
34 posted on 02/12/2004 10:22:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Luis Gonzalez
bump for later read.
35 posted on 02/12/2004 10:56:28 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: GretchenEE
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36 posted on 02/13/2004 12:46:18 AM PST by GretchenEE (The woman who walks with God always gets to her destination.)
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To: Huck
There's a whole lot of shortsightedness going on out there (and in here) on this administration.

The opposition understands what Bush is doing, and they fear him, so now we see the politics of personal destruction roll.

This coming campaign will be the dirtiest presidential campaign ever, dirt from the left, and dirt from the right thrown at Bush. I hope he can maintain his vision, and stay the course.
37 posted on 02/13/2004 5:10:03 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Huck
"The intersection of radicalism with technology the world witnessed on that terrible morning means that the persistence of authoritarianism anywhere can breed resentments that can provoke terrorism that can do us grievous harm."

Iraq's imminent danger.

38 posted on 02/13/2004 5:11:55 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Iraq's imminent danger.

It's a funny word game, isn't it? For the most part, the argument seems to be that a)President Bush never said imminent and b)as the president reiterated on MTP, if we wait til it's imminent, it's too late.

Are we now going to say that Iraq WAS an imminent threat? I think it's semantics. If the threat is such that we can't afford to wait, then it's an immediate threat. Imminent. But the argument goes in circles....the threat wasn't imminent, it was imminent, we can't wait til its imminent, it must be dealt with....well what's the diff? If it requires immediate action, it's an imminent threat, right?

As for your comment about short sightedness, I don't know if that's what it is. It hasn't been easy for me to understand and digest the information. To comprehend what the heck is going on. And I imagine even some very bright minds are not sure what will come of all this. That's the foreign policy.

On the spending side, I think the "short sightedness" of some fiscal conservatives caught the attention of the lawmakers, to some effect, while the long range thinkers were busy cheerleading, spinning, and trying to talk down any criticism.

39 posted on 02/13/2004 5:57:29 AM PST by Huck (OK. I'm over it.)
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40 posted on 02/15/2004 8:48:52 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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