San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couple

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[concerned about politics]

Coming next - full blown charges

You WILL obey. You WILL do as the homosexuals demand. You Will eliminate any free though from your minds.
Hail Hitler!

[GSWarrior]

The act of civil disobedience...

This pretty much says it all....it's more about civil disobedience than it is about love and stuff, IMO.

[george wythe]

The two issues that are the most improtant for me are getting conservatives on the judiciary and continuing to hunt down and kill jihadists. Everything else flows from that.

OK, we agree 100% on this.

After reading some of the liberal judges' decisions, it seems that amending the US Constitution will be the equivalent of playing Wack-A-Mole with these judges.

They will keep moving the goal post, invoking foreign law and UN charters, and voiding the simple and clear language of the US Constitution.

[Dalan]

I can't believe we are hearing people proclaim marriage to be a right. Since when it is a right? If it's a right, and if I'm a single guy and the gal I dig turns down my proposition, aren't I being denied my right to marriage? Should I be able to sue her to force her to marry me? Or vice versa?

[Zeroisanumber]

And so it goes.

[philetus]

The limits of tolerance
Backlash over sex party for S.F.'s elite nearly kills bond issue
By Brad Stetson

San Francisco voters on June 3 narrowly approved a municipal ballot measure calling for a $100 million bond issue to help finance a new stadium/mall complex for the San Francisco 49ers football team. Such events are fairly common, but the slim margin of passage-less than one percent-suggests both a brewing backlash against San Francisco's elite culture and that culture's ability to survive criticism.

The bond measure was heavily supported by the 49ers, the city's Democratic leadership, and various local liberal interest groups. Altogether, this coalition massively outspent the measure's opponents, $2 million to $100,000. But the entire drive for what was known as "Proposition D" nearly self-destructed a month before the election when the campaign's manager, prominent liberal political consultant and San Francisco power broker Jack Davis, held an X-rated party attended by Mayor Willie Brown, various elected city supervisors, and many other civic leaders supportive of the proposition.

The party, which featured acts of profound sexual perversion, was a 50th birthday celebration for Mr. Davis, and was organized by some of his friends. There were both male and female strippers dancing at the party, as well as live and simulated sex acts openly performed on a stage throughout the night.

The bacchanalia concluded with a "dominatrix" beating a man in front of the crowd, urinating on him in full view of the audience, and carving a satanic symbol-a pentagram-into the man's bare back with a knife. Finally, the man was publicly sodomized with a whiskey bottle. According to reports, some in attendance walked out in disgust, but many did not.

One of those who left in shock was Barbara Kaufman, president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, who was seen leaving during the mutilation of the man, moaning, "Gross ... gross." Some other city leaders remained, watching uncomfortably. San Francisco Sheriff Michael Hennessey was among them. He said, "It was like walking into a Mapplethorpe exhibit. It was so disgusting, I thought it was funded by the NEA (National Endowment for the Arts)."

The man in whose back the pentagram was carved is Steven Johnson Leyba, an "ordained" priest in the San Francisco-based Church of Satan. He also leads a performance group called The United Satanic Apache Front, which Mr. Leyba-who is one-quarter Apache-says has performed this same obscene act at the San Francisco Art Institute and the University of New Mexico. The ritual, which Leyba calls the "Apache Whiskey Rite," is intended, he says, to be a "literal metaphor for how alcohol was forced on my [Apache] people."

P. J. Johnson, a spokesman for mayor Willie Brown, expressed more sympathy for the bond issue than for those offended by the violent sexual perversion, saying at the time, "Hopefully ... everyone [will] move past the whole party thing, which has nothing to do with whether the city ought to invest in a project."

Although Mayor Brown (whose 1995 mayoral campaign Mr. Davis managed) was present at the party, he left for another commitment before the bloodletting of Mr. Leyba. But in response to the ensuing uproar, the mayor refused to criticize Mr. Davis, saying, "I don't know who he owes an apology to."

In the wake of the city fathers' night of debauchery, local newspapers and talk shows were abuzz with the angry voices of citizens deriding arrogant city insiders who flout what outside of San Francisco are considered common norms of behavior and who, in the words of one columnist, "think that they can get away with anything."

Local restaurant owner Ed Moose expressed the frustration of some city residents, saying, "We've come a long way in showing San Francisco as a sane, exciting place to live and raise a family. Now, once again, the country and really the whole world will say this place appears to be so far out of the mainstream. The people of this city deserve better, and that's why I'm so angry."

For Mr. Davis's part, when the furor over his party erupted, he offered to resign his management of the ballot initiative, and he issued an apology to the 49ers and to "all of those in attendance that night who took offense" at the perversity. "There were some activities on stage that many people found shocking," Mr. Davis allowed. But he had no regrets, telling the San Francisco Chronicle, "Most people said it was the best party they'd ever been to. And it wasn't anything compared to the after-party at my house."

As the June 3rd election neared and the substantial fallout from the party settled, some of those who had spoken freely to reporters about the party became coy. Sheriff Hennessey had only a rigid "no further comment" to questions about the party's impact on citizens' opinions of their leaders; Supervisor Kaufman turned down press interviews; and Mr. Johnson of the mayor's office insisted on the day before the election that the Davis affair was a "non-issue," saying flatly, "The voters don't care about that."

A San Francisco Examiner poll conducted shortly before the election found that nearly one-quarter of city voters said the Jack Davis party would affect their vote on the bond measure. And yet, the proposal passed. The outcome suggests that even in the most secularized, liberal city in the nation, citizens' patience has its limits, but the end has not yet been reached.

Nuff said?

[Dataman]

You WILL obey. You WILL do as the homosexuals demand.

And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring the out to us that we may have relations with them." Genesis 19:5

[george wythe]

And God forbid Hillary gets elected. She'll insist on having her image on every street corner, billboard and building across the country, like they used to do in the communist countries and Saddam did in Iraq.

My wife has a very good friend who is a small-business owner. The other day, I overheard my wife's friend saying that she admires Hillary, and she would vote for her if Hillary ran for president.

I have no idea what people find attractive on Hillary, but I'm beginning to suspect that there is some mass hypnosis or evil spirit helping Hillary.

How can any normal person find Hillary presidential or US Senate material?

[isom35]

the way the headline reads, some officals married a couple.
is that a group marriage?

[evets]

I always cry at weddings, but this makes me gag.

[GSWarrior]

I remember that scandal....SF political elites at their best.

[Nowhere Man]

I know as time goes by, when many Moslems say that "America is becoming less of a moral nation," its becoming harder and harder to refute that as the days go by. Don't take this wrong, I'm not for the Islamo-fascists, Wahabists, and their assorted terrorist allies, but this thought has just crossed my mind when I read this.

We are still in a huge battle of civilizations here, but when someone makes that charge, be they Jewish, Christian, or even Moslem, I'm afraid I can't really find a way to counter the "lax morals" charge.

There are days I get bummed out on this and wonder if America the way its going is worth saving, maybe just let it crash and we as the good people we are just rebuild it from the ashes to the way is should be.

[3catsanadog]

The cesspool has been overspilling its sides for 2-3 decades and created the environment conducive enough to allow the queers to infiltrate every facet of our lives - school, movies, the law, television.

Thirty years ago many of us baby boomers snickered at morality and the church. It started out with "we love each other and don't need a marriage certificate to express that love" which has evolved into junior high school girls hooking up with boys at parties and giving them blow jobs.

We divorce each other easily, sometimes only because she doesn't put the toothpaste cap back on or he doesn't lower the toilet seat lid.

We've winked at adultery.

I don't know if we can get the toothpaste back in the tube. I'm afraid only something much bigger than us can rectify this mess of a world.

[Nowhere Man]

You know what. I think you're right, maybe it is getting to the point where only God can help us sort this out. I can't say these are the End Times, only God can control when and where He is coming back, but I often wonder. Maybe we are being tested by Him as well, so even though I do get down, I feel we must continue the fight. Well, I gotta run, time for work. B-)

[leprechaun9]

One of the categories for filing the IRS 1040 is MARRIED!

I am unaware of anyone ever filing proof of marriage with the IRS. Can anyone then file a MARRIED return for M-F, M-M, F-F, M-Animal, F-Animal?

[jde1953]

'And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring the out to us that we may have relations with them." Genesis 19:5'

As long as we are in biblical mode: here in San Jose, about 80 km from San Francisco, the earth has not opened up with demons spilling forth. The sky has not fallen, nor is it raining brimstone. No disembodied booming voices bearing admonitions and/or threats have been heard as yet. But hey, you never know. Details at 11.

[jde1953]

" Can anyone then file a MARRIED return for M-F, M-M, F-F, M-Animal, F-Animal?"

*sigh* The old "they'll be marrying barnyard animals next" argument. Marriage is a contract. Contracts require consent. Animals cannot consent. Therefore, no contract between a human and animal is valid. If ever there was a non-issue, this is it.

[evets]

Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks that you're stoopid.

[Dataman]

But hey, you never know. Details at 11.

There must be at least 10 righteous men left.

[Zack Nguyen]

God help us - that story is the most disgusting, perverse, vile thing ever. That article deserves its own thread. Do you have a link to that story? What newspaper did it appear in?